Death Ward - mtg DISCUSSING

[Alexander82]

Researched at churc
Cost 6
Holy unit gain the death ward spell
Target: Flesh and blood allied units
Cooldown 3

When a unit under the death ward effect is killed it doesn't die but it stay alive with 1HP and the death ward effect is removed

[Sunrise Samurai]

What kind of duration are we looking at? In this case, it only adds one more hit to kill range, so permanent​ until used is reasonable, especially with a cooldown. In fact I would have paladins and Templars created with this effect active on them.

[LordOfAles]

Just to be sure,is this a castable spell or tech?

[Alexander82]

As you can read in the first post is a spell for holy units

[Alexander82]

What kind of duration are we looking at? In this case, it only adds one more hit to kill range, so permanent​ until used is reasonable, especially with a cooldown. In fact I would have paladins and Templars created with this effect active on them.

Yes, that was my idea. If you buff many units with that effect you gain extra hits they can take and occasionally heal those units.

[Sunrise Samurai]

Sounds good to me. Humans could use this, when compared to orcs high attack power. Might be a little less useful against elves, who do more multi hit attacks. Probably a lifesaver against undead though, since it makes them work harder for corpses.

[Alexander82]

Yes, that would raise the importance of healers

[samuelch]

Does the buffed unit still counter attack enemy?

[Sunrise Samurai]

I would assume so. Not much reason it shouldn't​.

[Alexander82]

It depends on how we see the spell.
If the spell simply prevent the last damage the unit should be able to counter
If the spell give you back life after you have died the unit shouldn't be avle to counter.

[Sunrise Samurai]

I guess that depends on what's simpler to program.

[Alexander82]

Since is a new effect i think it might be mostly the same.

[Sunrise Samurai]

Then I would say prevent the last point of damage. It keeps other effects ongoing instead of spawning a whole new unit. That would​ be a problem with my idea to have certain units spawn with this active, since you would have the replacement have the same effect.

[Stratego (dev)]

awesome but such mechanics missing currently.

[Savra]

Being that we now have the mechanic for this, could we give this to the humans healer, missionary, and hospitalar?

[makazuwr32]

Only problem is duration: how long should it be?

[Savra]

We could always go for the classic 2 turns.

[Midonik]

Wasn't it meant to be permanent? 50 turns probably do the job.

[makazuwr32]

Problem is how effect should disappear once it was used with long durations?
For now i would prefer 2-3 turns duration instead for this effect.

[Alexander82]

My starting idea was for the spell to be expended on use. I think it is not possible.

The spell itself would just give DIE_HARD to the target.

It might actually become too underpowered to be useful though.

[Savra]

Then we could remove the research and give the unit it at base. Upgrades to it could just increase how long it lasts.

[Alexander82]

It is not possible to increase a spell duration through upgrades. We can only make multiple versions of the spell that have a different duration (and give them for base/elite/master tier).

[makazuwr32]

I wonder if it is possible to make diehard to work only once.
If it is than it is possible to make effect that will restore not 1 hp but for example 25% of max hp and vanish after that.

[Alexander82]

It would be cool (high level casters might trigger higher %).

Here we need @Stratego (dev) to tell us what he thinks.

[makazuwr32]

Problem here to make effect working only once because if it will keep unit alive after "death" with more than 1 hp it will trigger over and over and over again thus this point must be adjusted firstly.

[Alexander82]

Yes, this is the main point.