Viking Gigant PEND

[Badnorth]

Not that big. The broadaxe suits him the best imo.

[Hyuhjhih]

How is this dude's helmslasher

Its not a broad axe, but a helmslasher, which is a stone pounding weapon. So a giant with a helmslasher .
Thats why i suggested horse mace

[Badnorth]

How is this dude's helmslasher

Its not a broad axe, but a helmslasher, which is a stone pounding weapon. So a giant with a helmslasher .
Thats why i suggested horse mace

What? No, I meant the image before the helmslasher.

[Badnorth]

If implemented broadaxe version, I'd suggest to add this skins.

Hooded and helm.

[Badnorth]

How is this dude's helmslasher

Its not a broad axe, but a helmslasher, which is a stone pounding weapon. So a giant with a helmslasher .
Thats why i suggested horse mace

The helmslasher you made seems too big. Fantasy giants with that weapon will fit more. Horse mace can also be good image-wise (but I've liked broadaxe more).

Btw, current cool guy is bigger than this, why don't you call him a giant?
I only added giant in the name because this is mainly featuring a tall and bulky person.

[Hyuhjhih]

Btw, current cool guy is bigger than this, why don't you call him a giant?

This is rhetorical, so no answer needed. And if i were to choose, i would go for the horsemace. Well if it seems too big, i would say i adjusted it to the size of the bearer

[Badnorth]

Lol, ok.

The mace you made looks too big. Make it one handed.

[Badnorth]

Viking gigant
Unit description:
Bigger and Taller than average viking's, this fearsome warrior wields a two handed axe to sweep any foe in range. Has a high amount of health and specializes in taking out buildings.
Trained in: Nordic hall
cost: 7
hp: 45
att: 13
spd: 3
aoe: 1
armor: 1/0
Sight: 5
Heal bonus: 1.0
Mental res: 35%
Bonuses:
100% Ships
150% Siege machines
150% Buildings
180% Fortified Buildings.
180% Armoured siege machines
330% Elephants
500% Mega buildings
Categories:
Nordic, Heavy foot melee, Anti-Buildings, Anti-Siege machines.

Pros:
high health pool
Splash attack
Building demolisher
Elephant bonuses
Cons:
Nordic hall only unit
Doesn't benefit from blacksmith upgrades
No armor
Easily converted
Heavy foot melee (countered by maceman and others)
High cost

@Endru1241, What do u think of the stats?
Compared to its closest unitw.elephant, this unit has -
Lower health
No abilities
Lower armor
Lower damage (by one)
No upgrade
But, this unit also has -
More bonuses
Low mental resistance
No elephant category
Normal move spd
Anti-buildings

[Morningwarrior]

In this case can be translated to a viking warrior with 2 meters or more.

Fast typing, but again.-

Is just explication for him to have the giant title

[Morningwarrior]

Viking gigant
Unit description:
Bigger and Taller than average viking's, this fearsome warrior wields a two handed axe to sweep any foe in range. Has a high amount of health and specializes in taking out buildings.
Trained in: Nordic hall
cost: 7
hp: 45
att: 13
spd: 3
aoe: 1
armor: 1/0
Sight: 5
Heal bonus: 1.0
Mental res: 35%
Bonuses:
100% Ships
150% Siege machines
150% Buildings
180% Fortified Buildings.
180% Armoured siege machines
420% Elephants
500% Mega buildings
Categories:
Nordic, Heavy foot melee, Anti-Buildings, Anti-Siege machines.

Pros:
high health pool
Splash attack
Building demolisher
Elephant bonuses
Cons:
Nordic hall only unit
Doesn't benefit from blacksmith upgrades
No armor
Easily converted
Heavy foot melee (countered by maceman and others)
High cost

@Endru1241, What do u think of the stats?
Compared to its closest unitw.elephant, this unit has -
Lower health
No abilities
Lower armor
Lower damage (by one)
No upgrade
But, this unit also has -
More bonuses
Low mental resistance
No elephant category
Normal move spd
Anti-buildings
[/@Endru1241
Is not much

Is not suitable for him to be heavy foot melee, better to be melee foot since his armor does not exist and considering only the hp the armor status is half empty for the game, in addition he causes a really unbalanced damage to the elephant, it would be better approximately 250% or 280%.

[Badnorth]

Reduced elephant bonuses to 330%
I only agree about the elephant bonuses, with 420% it deals something like 60+ dmg.

[Morningwarrior]

wait why viking have bonuses gains elephants?

[Badnorth]

wait why viking have bonuses gains elephants?

Basically to counter it.

[Morningwarrior]

Well,i hopeendru like and be implemented

[Badnorth]

Well,i hopeendru like and be implemented

Yea, im satisfied if this is implemented.
I came up with this idea when I read a manga called Vinland Saga. I saw thorkell the tall, a very tall viking with overwhelmingly powerful strength.

[Badnorth]

Updated.

[Morningwarrior]

Updated.

Is look good,2 meters barabarian viking

[Endru1241]

Stats-wise:
Shouldn't be too badly unbalanced.
Comparing to similar cost foot unit - Hoplite, it has a little less resilience - +50% more hp, but lacking armor, thus vulnerable to arrows. It has much lower mental resistance, but still can make conversion harder. Aoe however makes it have much, much stronger attacking side.
Bonuses are changed from classic heavy to anti-building (like most medium infantry), but slightly lowered so that should be ok. Bonus against elephants is huge - it deals 55 base damage, so it's like a specific counter.
I know heavy infantry category was meant as a disadvantage, but there is nothing that would indicate them to be heavy.
And it's one of the best categories on the weaknesses side.
I would rather give such unit even more hp and set medium infantry category.

Flavour-wise:
I don't think it fits. Not as a regular unit at least.
Massive, muscular and tall on the same time people are rather rare.
I am not sure if there would be as many as to create a regular army unit, not even saying about it being reproducible on larger scale.
Actually there were such tries to create a unit with only tall people during the history and it never really was successful, even though they tried to do it in much newer times with huge difference in population and scale of possible search. As far as I know nazi germans tried to do it and before them Prussia back in 19th century.
But maybe unique unit (after some boost)? Or just map-editor.

[Badnorth]

Stats-wise:
Shouldn't be too badly unbalanced.
Comparing to similar cost foot unit - Hoplite, it has a little less resilience - +50% more hp, but lacking armor, thus vulnerable to arrows. It has much lower mental resistance, but still can make conversion harder. Aoe however makes it have much, much stronger attacking side.
Bonuses are changed from classic heavy to anti-building (like most medium infantry), but slightly lowered so that should be ok. Bonus against elephants is huge - it deals 55 base damage, so it's like a specific counter.
I know heavy infantry category was meant as a disadvantage, but there is nothing that would indicate them to be heavy.
And it's one of the best categories on the weaknesses side.
I would rather give such unit even more hp and set medium infantry category.

I will further reduce the bonuses to 200. To make it not a specific counter.
I thought that heavy category was meant for bulkier guys. I agree with more hp but medium category. Medium infantry just sounds wierd for a large guy.

Flavour-wise:
I don't think it fits. Not as a regular unit at least.
Massive, muscular and tall on the same time people are rather rare.
I am not sure if there would be as many as to create a regular army unit, not even saying about it being reproducible on larger scale.
Actually there were such tries to create a unit with only tall people during the history and it never really was successful, even though they tried to do it in much newer times with huge difference in population and scale of possible search. As far as I know nazi germans tried to do it and before them Prussia back in 19th century.
But maybe unique unit (after some boost)? Or just map-editor.

I'd rather make it unique rather than unusable in games.
Ok, here's my suggestion of the boosted stats. Hope it isn't op..
Viking gigant
Unit description:
Bigger and Taller than average viking's, this fearsome warrior wields a two handed axe to sweep any foe in range. Has a high amount of health and specializes in taking out buildings. It is a very resilient unit thus he doesn't know defeat.
Trained in: Nordic hall
cost: 8
hp: 64
att: 15
spd: 3
aoe: 1
armor: 1/0
Sight: 5
Heal bonus: 1.0
Mental res: 100%
Bonuses:
120% Ships
120% Siege machines
120% Buildings
180% Fortified Buildings.
180% Armoured siege machines
180% Elephants
400% Mega buildings
Categories:
Nordic, Medium foot melee, Anti-Buildings, Anti-Siege machines.

Unique (1 per player).
Unaffected by blacksmith upgrades.
Inconvertable

[Badnorth]

Is it unbalanced? If so, perhaps increased cost?

[Badnorth]

I think this needs a demoralize aura. In my opinion, being in a close-battle against a tall and massive warrior will trigger fear. Maybe a demoralize aura with 1 range.

Improved shadowing.

[Hyuhjhih]

I would suggest inconvertable

[Badnorth]

I would suggest inconvertable

Same.

[Badnorth]

This still can come in wagons, no? It's just a large muscular person.
Or it'll take 2 slots in some carriers, e.g.Wagon, ram and Siege tower.

[Hyuhjhih]

CAN_CARRY

[Endru1241]

I think this needs a demoralize aura. In my opinion, being in a close-battle against a tall and massive warrior will trigger fear. Maybe a demoralize aura with 1 range.

Improved shadowing.

Demoralise is much too strong to be given so freely.
It is also a sum of propaganda, more advanced mental techniques, cultural influence.
No - it should still be unique for units like senator.
Unless you meant low morale?
That should be acceptable.

I would suggest inconvertable

Wise suggestion.
Well, actually in my design all uniques should be inconvertible, but being unique just asks for it.

This still can come in wagons, no? It's just a large muscular person.
Or it'll take 2 slots in some carriers, e.g.Wagon, ram and Siege tower.

There is no way to make units take more than 1 space.
So either normal 1 space, having run ability giving + speed, but taking an action, just like elephants or transformation with more speed but nerfed or removed attack/abilities.
Those two latter doesn't fit him though.

[Badnorth]

There is no way to make units take more than 1 space.
So either normal 1 space, having run ability giving + speed, but taking an action, just like elephants or transformation with more speed but nerfed or removed attack/abilities.
Those two latter doesn't fit him though.

I've seen AoF do it. The large Uruk-hai warrior in wagons takes 2 slots. Right @makazuwr32?

Demoralise is much too strong to be given so freely.
It is also a sum of propaganda, more advanced mental techniques, cultural influence.
No - it should still be unique for units like senator.
Unless you meant low morale?
That should be acceptable.

Oh, I meant low morale. Like the berserker.
Btw, how's the stats? Op?

Inconvertable it is then.

[Morningwarrior]

still think he should be melee foot just

[Endru1241]

Non-specific "melee foot" category is an advantage. There is few units having this, mainly for decreasing amount of bonuses against them as one of strong sides. It is much better than heavy melee foot.

[Badnorth]

Non-specific "melee foot" category is an advantage. There is few units having this, mainly for decreasing amount of bonuses against them as one of strong sides. It is much better than heavy melee foot.

Hmm, I see.