Upgrade longbow

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Lekkerhoor
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Upgrade longbow

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Becouse the Crossbow archer is much better than the longbow I will suggest a upgrade for the longbow:

Blacksmit upgrade for longbow
Speed +1 cost 7 turns
Action/ turn + 1 cost 7 turns (after speed upgrade)

Other range upgrade will still available
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This too has been suggested and has been in development with the ranger...
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I'm new on the forum... and did not see the upgrade was a complete developed or implement idea, so i suggest it...
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Hi,
This is a different idea then the ranger.

You made no fault lekkerhoor!

There is no ez way to find topic ideas in a Post of another topic if u didnt read it.


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Yes, but I am saying that there was already a discussion somewhere about balancing longbows.
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I really think long bows need an upgrade mainly in range and movement. so here my upgrade's goes...
cost - 7
speed - +2
range - +2

researched at archery range and black smith
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Belfry777 wrote:I really think long bows need an upgrade mainly in range and movement. so here my upgrade's goes...
cost - 7
speed - +2
range - +2

researched at archery range and black smith
1. WAY too op.
2. They have blacksmith upgrade.
3. Even if you want some kind of upgrade for them then let's say
Cost 6 turns
Damage +1
Hp +3
Range stays same (trebushet had ALWAYS highest range)
Because with your suggested stats you want unit with:
attack 6 (with blacksmith 8)
range 9 (and with blacksmith 11, higher than trebushet!!!)
speed 5 (WHY? Why Foot unit will have speed of Cavalry?!)
makazuwr32 wrote: Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:54 amWhen you ask to change something argument why...
Put some numbers, compare to what other races have and so on...
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Some people have got nothing better to do than to suggest ideas without any knowledge of balancing...
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godOfKings wrote:Some people have got nothing better to do than to suggest ideas without any knowledge of balancing...
Totally agree.
makazuwr32 wrote: Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:54 amWhen you ask to change something argument why...
Put some numbers, compare to what other races have and so on...
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Me too :mrgreen:
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I think the suggestion is OP. If there is a new unit suggestion, please post it in the new unit suggestions topic
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Okay! Since my Idea was not well liked, I will try again! And to "gok" this means war! So I think the damage should be 2 or 3 more because the crossbow men have a long range and a lot of power, I am a firm believer in the range going at least 1 more and hp should be maybe bumped up by 3 or 4. I do not know the Hp of the longbowman.
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Which unit is supposed to be the upgrade of this unit? I'm not in favor of giving it trebuchet range along with a generic upgrade. This game usually avoids that. I'm sorry, but I don't think they need an upgrade. I use them regularly. :)
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Okay I see the problem no range upgrade.
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Longbow probably doesn't need the upgrade, but I must say I don't object quite as much to the idea of it having 10 range when fully upgraded. In AoF, a fully upgraded elf archer (6 power/range +3 upgrades +1 eagle eye) can hit 10 power at 10 range at 2 cost. I understand it's a completely different game, but balance wouldn't be absolutely ruined. This being said, I would say the upgrade isn't necessary anyway.
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Guys....make a topic...
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I'll leave this link here.

Heavy Longbowman - Longbowman upgrade
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Did he eat a lot or something? LOL
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