Warrior Buff - ANSWERED

Alpha · Post by **Alpha** » Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:18 pm

We should increase the Warrior's Attack power by 1. Same for the Broad swordsmen as he far too weak (In my opinion

Alexander82 · Post by **Alexander82** » Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:25 pm

I think they are fine at the moments (humans have upgrades to attack from the smith)

Alpha · Post by **Alpha** » Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:27 pm

Its just that sometimes I believe they are under powered against the other races

Alexander82 · Post by **Alexander82** » Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:28 pm

Human infantry is better than both elves and undeads. They have a great cavalry and and they are meant to be versatile (and they have the best siege units)

Alpha · Post by **Alpha** » Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:29 pm

I agree but they do have mediocre ranged units. We should also add more cavalry units.

Post by **Midonik** » Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:31 pm

Dont forget about incomoing imperial knight

Alexander82 · Post by **Alexander82** » Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:32 pm

Upgraded archers are better than elf archers (and they can also upgrade bows for additional range and damage)
Human need definitely no "help" cause they are probably the best race in game (maybe elves are, considering their op archers, their magic resistance and summoning ents that stop the best melee units).

Post by **DoomCarrot** » Tue Sep 27, 2016 7:29 pm

Elves are best.
However, I agree that human warriors do not need a buff. I am kicking orc butt with broadswords + archers in one game right now.

Alpha · Post by **Alpha** » Tue Sep 27, 2016 8:15 pm

Well Carrot that is a different sotry for me

Post by **Stratego (dev)** » Tue Sep 27, 2016 8:38 pm

DoomCarrot wrote:Elves are best.
However, I agree that human warriors do not need a buff. I am kicking orc butt with broadswords + archers in one game right now.

i am really surprised, is your enemy uses buffs from shamans? if not he is nothing to do with orcs, and you might be kicked if he would

Post by **DoomCarrot** » Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:33 pm

Yes. However, I also have about 6 towers in range of the battle, and the opponent is an AI

I'm not so sure I would be alive if it were a human player.

Alexander82 · Post by **Alexander82** » Wed Sep 28, 2016 8:39 am

The fact that humans have unlimited shooting tower is one of their strenght

Post by **MightyGuy** » Wed Sep 28, 2016 12:38 pm

Post by **DoomCarrot** » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:29 pm

Well, technically there aren't any races but elves and other humans that can effectively deal with tower spam.

Elves can shoot the workers easily and use ents to take down the towers, whereas undeads and orcs can't get close enough to the towers with enough alive to do serious damage normally, and they have no means of picking off the workers.

Alexander82 · Post by **Alexander82** » Wed Sep 28, 2016 2:19 pm

Exactly. That's why they need some serious ranged siege (i think that for balance reasons we might put some units aside the one voted)

Post by **Stratego (dev)** » Wed Sep 28, 2016 5:10 pm

DoomCarrot wrote:Well, technically there aren't any races but elves and other humans that can effectively deal with tower spam.

Elves can shoot the workers easily and use ents to take down the towers, whereas undeads and orcs can't get close enough to the towers with enough alive to do serious damage normally, and they have no means of picking off the workers.

Totally disagree

orcs can level everything in no time.
Undead also has mega units like golems . but yes they are not so enough.

Alexander82 · Post by **Alexander82** » Wed Sep 28, 2016 5:27 pm

Daniel (the dev) wrote: orcs can level everything in no time.

Never seen that happen... really xD

Please guys i want to make an online game 2 orc players (me and daniel shall be ok, he seems to rock with orcs and they are the race i use most) and the other 2 good player with elves

In another game we will play 2 orcs vs 2 humans

I really want daniel make me win a game with orcs that easily (if ever) xD

Post by **DoomCarrot** » Wed Sep 28, 2016 5:43 pm

I'll play in either of those games Alexander. I'm good with humans and decent with elves.

And yes, I do not think orcs are that good, unless they have a substantial tc advantage so they can swarm. But who wouldn't do that if they had a substantial tc advantage.

Post by **Stratego (dev)** » Wed Sep 28, 2016 5:48 pm

Cool! Lets hammer elves down!

Alexander82 · Post by **Alexander82** » Wed Sep 28, 2016 5:59 pm

DoomCarrot wrote:I'll play in either of those games Alexander. I'm good with humans and decent with elves.

And yes, I do not think orcs are that good, unless they have a substantial tc advantage so they can swarm. But who wouldn't do that if they had a substantial tc advantage.

Yes. The real strenght of orcs is in long term games where they can really unleash a army of their strongest units... this rarely happens xD

Daniel (the dev) wrote:Cool! Lets hammer elves down!

Perfect

e just need a 4th man

I'll call the games OrcDev vs Humans and OrcDev cs Elves

Password: danielrocks

Alpha · Post by **Alpha** » Wed Sep 28, 2016 6:52 pm

But I want to be a Orc ;3

Alexander82 · Post by **Alexander82** » Wed Sep 28, 2016 6:55 pm

I need Daniel to be an orc xD

Alpha · Post by **Alpha** » Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:46 pm

Awwwwwwwww

Post by **MightyGuy** » Thu Sep 29, 2016 4:26 pm

Post by **DoomCarrot** » Thu Sep 29, 2016 5:32 pm

Someone be my ally!

Alpha · Post by **Alpha** » Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:17 pm

Wish I can but I can't!

Alexander82 · Post by **Alexander82** » Thu Sep 29, 2016 7:16 pm

This is what i fear is gonna happen: https://youtu.be/26ltUa3g2zk?list=PLIrh ... 116vGiywQm

For those who are not familiar with fallout the gatorclaws are, on paper, much stronger than the nukatrons (the gatorclaw is considered level 40, the nukatron level 5)
Obviously fallout is not a strategy game, but this simulation is useful to understand that ranged units amassed can easily kill stronger melee units before they hit them.

Alpha · Post by **Alpha** » Thu Sep 29, 2016 8:01 pm

I agree to my fellow Fallout 4 Player!

Post by **MightyGuy** » Sat Oct 01, 2016 1:56 am

what's going on

Post by **DoomCarrot** » Sat Oct 01, 2016 3:49 pm

A 4 player game with only 3 players.... That's what's going on.

If no one joins in the next two days, I'm just going to create a throwaway account and do a 2 vs me.

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