Scaledfolks - Dragons and reptiles - MERGED

[Alexander82]

A suggestion. When making lights on green unit you might use yellow instead of white to avoid loosing color

[Skelegonsans]

Yup, its great

[Skelegonsans]

Heres another one, imho, this one is really good. Note that i invented 2 of its 4 abilities.
Serpent shaman (cost: 4 / mage) (abilities: slowing, poison mist (poisons units in a + area, 2 cooldown), freeze (10 damage in a + area. Requires the respective tech. 2 cooldown.), strenghten.)
Hp 15
Atk 3
Arm/p.arm 1/1
Speed 3
Sight 5
Spell range: 5
Description: this serpentine magican can use ice, poison, and supportive spells.

[Alexander82]

I think that for those abilities the cost is pretty low. You should make no less than 6 turns (and probably more having 2 area damage)
The images are getting better. Try now to make the different parts of the unit being on different planes (take a look to the drake rider or the raptor rider and see how the tail looks forward compared to the rest of the body)
It's not simple at first but you seems to be a fast learner.

[Skelegonsans]

I dont think its abilities are THAT op since they just target a + area, but yeah, its cost is a bit low. I guess a 5 will be better. Maybe lower its hp? And feel free to use the sprite i made as base for better ones, guys.

[Alexander82]

fr a + area you mean melee range?

[Skelegonsans]

No, i mean: you choose a square in a range up to 5, and that square AND the squares around it get hit. (As opposed to wizards fireball that hit not only in a + area but also in the squares close to the + area, that is a total of 13 squares.)

[Skelegonsans]

And btw the poison mist does not deal any damage. It just poisons.

[Alexander82]

Yes... i mean that a skill like that would be very strong. Let's say you poison them with a shaman end use freeze with the other (like 5 archers)
They are definitely dead once they receive their poison damage

They unit is strong and versatile (it also has one of the best debuff and one of the best buff).

I think it is worth not less than 6 turns

[Skelegonsans]

Well, they CAN be a bit op when used in combo... ok, i guess a 6 cost is better after all.

[DoomCarrot]

I actually do not agree with Alexander here.
So far there are no protections/buildings/wagons or anything for this race, which means the shaman is gonna be in the open with a speed of 3.... Yes he can probably cause a lot of havoc if he gets close to a congested group of your soldiers (or if 2 do at the same turn), but I personally wouldn't let this guy get anywhere near my frontline without filling his low 15 HP up with arrows--and even if I had a weak ranged race like undead or orcs I would split up my troops to minimize his effectiveness and then just rush it the next turn.

I think 6 cost is far too much, 5 maybe, 4 honestly seems balanced given the current units and balance of the game imo.

EDIT: After reviewing the unit, I am actually confused as to the freeze ability. Is it JUST area damage or area damage + freezing a unit for how many turns?

[Skelegonsans]

White dragon (cost:5 / healer/flying) (its a healer and a fighter at the same time, but a bit weaker than most other dragons. Can fly. Has the "healing breath" ability, it heals 8 hp in a + area. Needs 2 turns of cooldown to use again. When in a dragon den, units in the den will heal 8 hp per turn instead of 4.)
Hp 16
Atk 7
Arm/p.arm 1/1
Speed: 4 (fly)
Sight: 5
Description: This dragon has a healing breath that eases pain and closes wounds.

i REALLY want this one to be implemented, along with the devourer / phsychic dragons. Imho they are great ideas for dragon units. (If u guys havent seen those ideas, check em out, there are many cool ideas for units back there.) I guess ill start making a sprite for this one. (Just forget about that "dragon den", now that the dragons topic merged with the scaledfolk topic, i guess it wont work.)

[Skelegonsans]

Like i said before, i guess a cost of 5 would be tge perfect balance between op abilities and frailness.

[Skelegonsans]

And no, the freeze ability just deals damage. Nothing else.

[Alexander82]

I think that the breath should be like the current dragon breath (around the dragon). It would be a good compromise from a long range healer that heal at a distance and this one that heal more units but near itself

[Alexander82]

I actually do not agree with Alexander here.
So far there are no protections/buildings/wagons or anything for this race, which means the shaman is gonna be in the open with a speed of 3.... Yes he can probably cause a lot of havoc if he gets close to a congested group of your soldiers (or if 2 do at the same turn), but I personally wouldn't let this guy get anywhere near my frontline without filling his low 15 HP up with arrows--and even if I had a weak ranged race like undead or orcs I would split up my troops to minimize his effectiveness and then just rush it the next turn.

I think 6 cost is far too much, 5 maybe, 4 honestly seems balanced given the current units and balance of the game imo.

EDIT: After reviewing the unit, I am actually confused as to the freeze ability. Is it JUST area damage or area damage + freezing a unit for how many turns?

Not every race has ten thousand archers...

[Skelegonsans]

I think that the breath should be like the current dragon breath (around the dragon). It would be a good compromise from a long range healer that heal at a distance and this one that heal more units but near itself

Good idea. Healing breath: range 3, area 3 (the same as fire breath), heals 8 hp, cooldown 3.

[Skelegonsans]

I tried to make a sprite for white dragon but...... i just cant its horrible. Do this one for me pls, guys.

[Alexander82]

area for fire breath is 2 around the unit (max 12 unit at once)

[Skelegonsans]

Ehm, no. The area is 13 and the range is 3. U are forgetting to slide the green fireball that appears over the dragon to the target location... when u click it without sliding the range is self.

[Alpha]

Got an Idea for a unit


Constrictor: Use's a whip to convert enemy's (Like the Orc Slaver)

[Alexander82]

ok but the area is 2 (the cross is 1 and the single tile is 0)
I didn't know you could slide it tough xD

[Skelegonsans]

Alex:
Worker: constrictor?... sounds a bit weird. Status/sprite?

[Alexander82]

ok i tested it, lol that is definitely too much then xD

[MightyGuy]

I list your unit ideas here:
- White Dragon
- Serpent Shaman
- Constrictor

[Skelegonsans]

Well, the cooldown is 3 so... i guess its reasonable. Or slightly op

[Alexander82]

maybe area 2 but only around the unit but no cooldown or area 2 and range 2 with cooldown. Also if you want area 3 and range 3 the amount of healt healed should be lower (like 4)

[MightyGuy]

i think some scaledfolks best in spell but easily to ward if spell resist is 80% above.

[Skelegonsans]

Area 2 range 3 cooldown 3. Just like fire breath. But instead of 10 it will heal 8.

[Skelegonsans]

i think some scaledfolks best in spell but easily to ward if spell resist is 80% above.

Ah yes, you reminded me:
How about 80% spell res to shaman