version v1.057

[Ayush Tiwari]

Looks,like Orcs have to catch up with a lot of work.

Thanks,Alexander,and Sunrise,you made a good explanation for me,but............... One more question
What is the main tech for upgrading raptors,after researching raptors,warg riding or orc to elite orc

[Sunrise Samurai]

Right now the tech is being​ renamed. Warg riding is just a small stat increase,not an upgrade. Pretty much, wolf rider to elite wolf rider will also upgrade raptors.

Interestingly enough, if you upgraded raptors only and then update, you can have a tc producing harnessed raptor riders, and the next one over producing basic raptor riders

[Alexander82]

Samurai it is true but you can research giant tech even without researching the orc tech: it simply won't upgrade leaders until you research the orc tech tough.

In the rebalancing of the hamletback, for example, you will need giant + goblin (hamletback fall in the giant category and spikers will be tied to the goblin tech).

[Ayush Tiwari]

This must be mentioned in-game

There might be some chance of orcish players getting furious,when they don't know about this.
I have already a game,with harnessed raptor tech researched,but now,since it will change,do I have to research the so-called rider tech?
Dev Version looks a new day for orcs

[Sunrise Samurai]

Very much new day. They got a lot more fun.

[Sunrise Samurai]

Gravedigger still doesn't have cooldown added properly, as well as elf wizard's summon ent (though I think I remember we decided we were going to make that have cooldown and duration of 5-6 after some​ discussion)

[Stratego (dev)]

yes, i will check,
(this is why i have to emulate the cooldown in our game )

[Sunrise Samurai]

(this is why i have to emulate the cooldown in our game )

......That is a pain.

[Ayush Tiwari]

I played a game against AI in a large map,with many TCs,so that I can research them all.........
My experience:Doing it first time,this was so wonderful,I had researched all those Techs,which I did not want to research,and the profit was much more,than I expected.I could use the 2 turn Orc Swordsman,after upgrading them to max.I could use Troll Headhunters Master,Harnessed Raptors,and so on.
I wanted to ask,how are the techs related with Hamletback.

[Ayush Tiwari]

I think I should leave the other questions,to practical,because if I ask everything here,what about the future version
(forgive me for asking so much questions,I have ran out of time for some weeks,to see things in-game,and I don't want to play bad,with Orcs.)

[Alexander82]

The hamletback will have 3 levels and the new versions will drop improved goblin spikers.

I've also changed the images for both hamletbacks and spikers

[Ayush Tiwari]

The hamletback will have 3 levels and the new versions will drop improved goblin spikers.

I've also changed the images for both hamletbacks and spikers

Looks like this monster will be useful,from now

[Stratego (dev)]

Multiplayer scenarios:
ok. the first version is in AOF too.
please dowload, someone make a nice multiplayer scenario map, and send me the map.
after that i can put in , i will upload the version where that is in, so we can try how this multiplayer scenario thing works.

in skirmish map in map setup u can select players to be multiplayers (i tried with 1 human and 1 muzltiplayer)

uos 10

thanks!

[General Brave]

It would be nice if I have the next update, so I can make a multiplayer scenario. But it seems I have to wait for the public release.

[Ayush Tiwari]

I will try one

[Sunrise Samurai]

Sent you a simple regicide​ map. 2 players, kill the opposing king to win.... assuming the triggers work. But, that's what we're testing right? Both sides have a full base, so you can get right into the action. Please don't kill the neutral fairies. They don't deserve to die. Okay, no more than any other neutral annoyance in the way.

Including a screenshot, so everyone can get a glimpse.

[Stratego (dev)]

thanks!
it is up on server!

also i created a game for us as i wrote in email.

[General Brave]

Can you please somehow make it that all the maps I have created still be with me. Because once you on a new phone or you uninstalled and install it back. All the things you have created are gone, I can't move on the dev version without losing what I have created, so can you make it so that the maps are saved on the account?

[Sunrise Samurai]

A couple of issues I can see so far. First, the locked image shows instead of a map when creating the game from map selection. Second, you can change race and human/ai on map creation. Both of those need to be locked in some scenarios, while unlocking them for others should be alright. This particular map, I don't care if people play either side or against ai, but race must be locked to human, since I made all human buildings on both sides.

[Stratego (dev)]

locked image shows

ok, will fix

you can change race

ok, this might be considered to be locked

human/ai

i think it is ok to change, so it needs no fix imho

"can you make it so that the maps are saved on the account"

sorry i think that is not saved now and i will make it someday but not soon. finish and send me maps u want to be published and then forget the drafts

[Sunrise Samurai]

Actually I do think we need the option to lock certain player slots to ai only. This way a map designer can balance games such as a cooperative match vs ai, or a rpg style quest. Also, I've been wanting​ to try placing a hostile ai player in the middle of the map, as an obstacle before you reach the opposing player(s). Such a position would be disadvantaged, and not necessarily fun for a human to play as.

[Ayush Tiwari]

Luckily,my phone saves an app data,if you have a new version of that,and replaces,the data that is not to be saved.So I don't have any problem with this thing

[Sunrise Samurai]

The neutral (white) ai is not equipped to handle non-neutral units. The fairies aren't moving at all, where I expect them to randomly shuffle around.

[Stratego (dev)]

there is no such ai that moves any units without attacking players.

only neutral animals have a dumb walking around ai - normal units have no.

[Sunrise Samurai]

Oh. I thought it was tied to the ai player, rather than the specific unit. Makes sense I suppose.

[Stratego (dev)]

locked image shows

ok, will fix

you can change race

ok, this might be considered to be locked

these are fixed, uos in AOF in 20 minutes.

[General Brave]

Are these scenarios working?

[Stratego (dev)]

aof scenario works well

[Ayush Tiwari]

In AoF it is fine.
In AoS it is still not in.(My map is almost complete,I will send it soon)
In AoWW,it is in,but very unbalanced.

[Stratego (dev)]

In AoF it is fine.
In AoS it is still not in.(My map is almost complete,I will send it soon)
In AoWW,it is in,but very unbalanced.

only AOF has multi-skirmish map yet.
AOW: was a testmap by me - never start game with that - will be removed!