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Naked gallic warrior IMPLEMENTED

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Naked fanatics warriors. The horror of rome legions.
Cost 4
Hp 20
Attack 15 ( it should be less)
Range 1
Armor 0/1 ( maybe 0/2)
Speed 4
Sight 4
C R 20% (they were fanatics)

+50% v light and medium infantry
+100% v roman
+ 20% v buildings

Ability :
Celtic warcry: +1 morale to ally celt units and -1 morale to enemy roman units. Range 2-3 tiles. Duration 3 turns. Coldown 4 turns.
throw javelin. Power 6. Range 3. Coldown 3 turns.
+50% v meele infantry and archers

Hides on forest

Im allready workig on sprite
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Im thinking in celt druids as a religious unit. With an ability like "celtic rage" making close celt allies became better in combat(aura). It could be for another topic.
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If I had to describe some unit as horror of roman armies - it would be harii - germanic ghost warriors.

Any celtic resistance were after all overcome.
Also - I don't really see any tactic or equipment specifically targetting romans (not that they had anything unique in history).

Fear effect could be universal - just like in betserker case.
But I disagree with any naked unit having such amount of hp or any armor stat.
Hp is representation of overall resilence on the battlefield - armor, tactics, unique abilities.
Armor stat is representation of stable resistance, which works despite tiredness and weariness of armor (at least for few days of battle).
Fighting without any armor or even protecting clothes would at the best make 10 hp, with no armor stat, because most military techniques is useless in such case.
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Endru1241 wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2020 6:53 pm If I had to describe some unit as horror of roman armies - it would be harii - germanic ghost warriors.

Any celtic resistance were after all overcome.
Also - I don't really see any tactic or equipment specifically targetting romans (not that they had anything unique in history).

Fear effect could be universal - just like in betserker case.
But I disagree with any naked unit having such amount of hp or any armor stat.
Hp is representation of overall resilence on the battlefield - armor, tactics, unique abilities.
Armor stat is representation of stable resistance, which works despite tiredness and weariness of armor (at least for few days of battle).
Fighting without any armor or even protecting clothes would at the best make 10 hp, with no armor stat, because most military techniques is useless in such case.
Remember the defense hability with the chosen weapon, and the shield like a defense tool. About hp, u r right, w about 13? The P. Armor is not very op. Has the same shield than skirmisher horseman (4). Without the armor bonus to P. Armor i thought 2 would be ok.
About its ability, will fear any foe. In that i agree with u, after read u.
Throwing spear and hiding abillities are ok?
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This is my first draft. Im not sure how to do tha head and face. The pink color are tatoos.
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Rearranged stats:
Cost 2
Hp 10-12
Attack 13-15
Range 1
Armor 0/1
Speed 4
Sight 4
C R 30%

+50% v light and medium infantry
+ 20% v buildings

Ability :
Celtic Warcry(spell): +1 morale to ally units and -1 morale to enemy units. Range 3 tiles
Throw Javelin. Power 6. Range 3. Coldown 3 turns.
+50% v meele infantry and archers

In forest:
Hidden
Speed: -2 (to keep hidden he goes slowly) (i don't like this because this is an ambush unit, reducing speed when leaving forest isn't logic)

Isn't affected by blacksmith techs.
Only able at nordic hall (maybe a celtic new building might be made)
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Why suddenly cost was halved?

Anyway - hidden in forest is impossible right now.
Nor would it make tactical sense to introduce it.

This unit needs to be either regular stealth unit, debuffer or regular warrior with some niche.

First and foremost - planned unit has to have clear role defined before implementation.
Otherwise it is problemeatic - too complicated to use, not cost effective or too strong compared to existing units, too versatile, straight op.
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It is an anti-foot meele. Made to charge and die, doing as damgae as posible. He won't keep on battle for a long time.
It is not op. With those stats, a slinger is able to kill it in 1 turn. It is complicated to use? Of course it is: is really weak, but great attack. Risky.
About cost, it should be 2-3. I forgot to edit it.
It couldn't b so expensive if it was going to be too weak against archers. Its really easy to deal with him.
Other detail: is only able at nordic hall, and isn't affected by blacksmith (warpaint affects him).
About hidding in forest ability, we could balance him to worth it.
It looks like a disbalanced unit, but that was their nature.
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There already exist celtic infantry, with the role of anti-infantry - Celtic Warrior.
Compare the stats.
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Endru1241 wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:59 pm There already exist celtic infantry, with the role of anti-infantry - Celtic Warrior.
Compare the stats.
He has
Hp 28
Attack 10 (veteran ability)
Anything else is the same.
In comparission
Hp 12
Attack 13-15
+javelik ability

Highlander are better at fighting and the could resist and rise theur attack.
Remember naked warriors has the "celtic warcry" being a good companion for other celtic units.
I think it is vaible. Low hp like priest. High attack and speed.
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Not him. That's Highlander.
I meant Celtic Warior - 2 cost, 11hp, 7 power, double attack, +100% damage vs infantry.
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Endru1241 wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2020 4:08 pm Not him. That's Highlander.
I meant Celtic Warior - 2 cost, 11hp, 7 power, double attack, +100% damage vs infantry.
Then, should we forget about naked warrior?
I like his abillity and , as i said, i am thinking on druid unit. Maybe like a religious unit, but with the "pagan" cattegory. He could have some kind of aura and poor healing ability.
He would be better balanced than naked warrior.
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A celtic unit that relies on its numbers than power

Naked gallic warrior

Trainable at: Barracks & TC

Cost: 1

Hp: 11
Att: 4
Spd: 3
Arm: 0/1 (shield)
Sight: 5
Action: 2
SR: 100% (Fanatics)

Affected by Celtic technologies and Blacksmith sword upgrades.

Celtic,Light infantry,melee

Bonuses:
100%Roman units
50% All buildings
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Half naked with a cloth in his wiener and a small buckler and carrying a machete like weapon.
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