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Re: English units
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:30 am
by L4cus
I will make stats
Can u get some info for the text?
Re: English units
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:33 am
by DreJaDe
L4cus wrote: ↑Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:30 am
I will make stats
Can u get some info for the text?
That's kinda a problem cause there's no text to this types of unit except I guess from the AOS
You know, it's weird for me that Ranged units have minimum range when they can actually shoot effectively at melee range. Plus the side arms. I understand that this is a game but some of the games I know don't even have that.
Re: English units
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:36 am
by L4cus
Look for medieval cavalry at wikipedia. Maybe there is a part about weapkry or equipment, there should be something about lance for cavalry
Also, i made some changes for the final version of some units. They are posted at "ready for jsons." Then, dont get surprised if lancer stats arent that good as late knight
Re: English units
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:41 am
by L4cus
DreJaDe wrote: ↑Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:33 am
L4cus wrote: ↑Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:30 am
I will make stats
Can u get some info for the text?
That's kinda a problem cause there's no text to this types of unit except I guess from the AOS
You know, it's weird for me that Ranged units have minimum range when they can actually shoot effectively at melee range. Plus the side arms. I understand that this is a game but some of the games I know don't even have that.
Just some of them will have it for balancing. Also, bayondt musketeers used to shoot a few salvas and charge, not shooting at the fight
Re: English units
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:50 am
by L4cus
Medieval lancer
Categories
-mounted, heavy armored, anti-mounted
Cost 5
Hp 58
Attack 15
Range 1
Armor 4/3
Speed 5
Sight 5
+33% v mounted
- 64 Lancer.png (1.88 KiB) Viewed 3004 times
Re: English units
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 1:13 am
by DreJaDe
Ill send some flavour text
Here's the Proper Knight, not the light cav.
Re: English units
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 1:21 am
by Gral.Sturnn
Hello guys i finally got acces to a pc so now ill be able to help with images.
Re: English units
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 1:24 am
by L4cus
Gral.Sturnn wrote: ↑Sun Apr 19, 2020 1:21 am
Hello guys i finally got acces to a pc so now ill be able to help with images.
Nice to see u here Gral. We need sprites for techs
Also, u could help with some upgraded versions of some units readys for jsons.
Re: English units
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 1:25 am
by L4cus
DreJaDe wrote: ↑Sun Apr 19, 2020 1:13 am
Ill send some flavour text
Here's the Proper Knight, not the light cav.
What sould i do with these?
- English Knight 2.png (2.4 KiB) Viewed 2998 times
- 64 knight.png (2.01 KiB) Viewed 2998 times
What about make that last version of late knight an upgrade flr knight, the late cavalier?
Re: English units
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 1:25 am
by Gral.Sturnn
sure, but first ill add some minor corrections to existing sprites for accuracy
Re: English units
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 1:27 am
by L4cus
Yeah, thats pretty nice too
Thanks
Re: English units
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 1:42 am
by DreJaDe
L4cus wrote: ↑Sun Apr 19, 2020 1:25 am
DreJaDe wrote: ↑Sun Apr 19, 2020 1:13 am
Ill send some flavour text
Here's the Proper Knight, not the light cav.
What sould i do with these?
English Knight 2.png64 knight.png
What about make that last version of late knight an upgrade flr knight, the late cavalier?
I don't really understand but what I mean by the proper Knight is that it is like the knights in AOS not the light cav.
Re: English units
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 1:43 am
by DreJaDe
Gral.Sturnn wrote: ↑Sun Apr 19, 2020 1:25 am
sure, but first ill add some minor corrections to existing sprites for accuracy
That would be nice
Re: English units
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 2:25 am
by Gral.Sturnn
heres the swrodman, what do you guys think?
Re: English units
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 2:42 am
by L4cus
Looks like a foot knight or the footman upgrade
We could add it
Re: English units
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 2:47 am
by Gral.Sturnn
L4cus wrote: ↑Sun Apr 19, 2020 2:42 am
Looks like a foot knight or the footman upgrade
We could add it
Well this is meant to be the normal swordman from the 15th century, naturally as swordmen didnt exist in this period id imagine that if they existed, theycwould wear extensive armour.
So no this isnt meant to be a knight nor an upgrade.
Re: English units
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 2:51 am
by L4cus
What is it based on?
Re: English units
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 2:56 am
by Gral.Sturnn
L4cus wrote: ↑Sun Apr 19, 2020 2:51 am
What is it based on?
I mashed up several english soldiers from the 15 th century, in reality there were no swordmen as we think of them, maybe i can give him a tabbard so he can hide his breastplate and look less "knightly".
Re: English units
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 2:59 am
by DreJaDe
Btw I made tlmy images for them using this reference.
And many more but this could a good distinction for their uniform since like Grul said. They don't have a professional army.
Re: English units
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:02 am
by Gral.Sturnn
DreJaDe wrote: ↑Sun Apr 19, 2020 2:59 am
Btw I made tlmy images for them using this reference.
And many more but this could a good distinction for their uniform since like Grul said. They don't have a professional army.
Oh I see, well I think we are running into an issue here.
Are we starting from the 1400s or the 1450s?
Re: English units
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:04 am
by DreJaDe
Gral.Sturnn wrote: ↑Sun Apr 19, 2020 2:25 am
heres the swrodman, what do you guys think?
This can be used as an upg cause it looks way too armored if not on closed look. What I made is just the unit with chain armor and helmet and of course the distinction.
It also needs some polishing. And the shield should be a buckler based on L4cus suggestion.
Re: English units
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:05 am
by L4cus
Then, give him a bill to look more like the image
Also, we can change the footman concept for levies
Sword levy, spear levy, pike levy
In addition to that, the billman and the halberdier (idk if they should have it) like more proffesional units
Re: English units
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:07 am
by Gral.Sturnn
So?
Is t 1400s or 1450s?
Re: English units
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:08 am
by L4cus
1400
Re: English units
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:08 am
by DreJaDe
Gral.Sturnn wrote: ↑Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:07 am
So?
Is t 1400s or 1450s?
Between them
Re: English units
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:09 am
by DreJaDe
L4cus wrote: ↑Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:08 am1400
Ow
Re: English units
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:11 am
by L4cus
Look at eras topic
U suggested it
Re: English units
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:13 am
by DreJaDe
L4cus wrote: ↑Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:11 am
Look at eras topic
U suggested it
Wait, from what I remember I suggest units from 1400-1500. That's why I also agree for Gruls image to be an Upg.
Re: English units
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:15 am
by L4cus
So? Is it 1400s or 1450s?
Re: English units
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:23 am
by Gral.Sturnn
O well it makes sense then. Tommorrow ill work on it then, thanks for the clarification.
