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They were supposed to be, by far, the best versed in the healing arts.

It was a storyline bonus as well as allowing for future subs to obtain specific bonuses vs certian races.

If you read the story, it is mentioned multiple times that the knighthood primarily hunts undead.

Yes I know, even so no one agreed nor like the idea of a race bonus especially against undead.
You don't have to believe me but in discord it was discuss about and that was the outcome

Maybe instead all undead units you pick a specific faction in undeads

So, what did they say exactly?

It was meant to be unique.
Armored humans= imperial
If I can't use healing and undead specific bonuses, what can I use for these celestial humans (high men) to set them apart from normal unit.

I believe you, Tankhead, but I need this to be worth putting in. I put a part of me into this.

Please, I have come too far to just throw it all away.

What factions are there?

Skeletons, zombies ( including ghouls ), phantoms
Then they're is those that don't fit any of those,
Like vampire, death knight and such

Well, Argent soldiers face zombies, skeletons, ghouls most in their homeland. Stronger Argent Units take on all undead.

Sacred Tracker is the most specialized (Good vs all undead)

So maybe focused on facing lesser undead(Zombies & Skeletons), with a few exceptions.

?

I personally wouldn't mind your soldiers have a small bonus against skeletons considering fire and posion won't really affect them no more

What will the people of discord think?

And zombies?

I gotta propose the idea
Ill tell you once I get everyone thoughts in

That would be nice.

Let me explain changes:
1. Exept of sacred tracker no racial bonuses at all.
Even 1% because that will allow to deal full damage on counter. And this is huge disadvantage, believe me.
2. Healing is still there but it is unlockable on higher level.
3. Lancers (for now only one lancer unit is in game - raptor raider) has 150% to all cav and 250% to imperial knight. All normal cav have 50% bonus to infantries.
4. These units are affected by human blacksmith upgrades.
5. Argent battle tower has actual turn cost 9 if workers have mend rate 10 and 6 if workers have 15 mend rate.
So it is overall better fortress for same cost and because i removed 1 additional carry capacity.
6. These changes also will allow for your faction to have for tier 1, 2 researches low costs - around 3/5 turns. For comparison gnomes for dwarves will have 6/8 turns cost for researching tier 1/2.
7. Bonuses to dragons for sverdestave can be added if you want. 50% to all dragons.
8. Turn costs i will lower later for some units.

Cost for their research was organized as thus...

Tier 1: 5 turns
Tier 2: 7 turns
Tier 3: 9 Turns

Please add bonuses, and let me know when you do? Each time changes are made, I need to edit 1st post.

Bear rider is also in game (Dwarven Lancer)

So, what is carrying cap for Argent Tower, 2 or 1? It used to be 3...

Or, Tankhead! They can have bonuses vs Cursed units.

1 carry cap for argent tower.
I think about a bit lower cost for researching this sub.
On weekends i will post changes for costs.

Let me know when you do, I will post edits on first page.

Also, balance Argent Clerist so I can put on list.

StormSaint373 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:03 pm New unit to accommodate for Saint becoming pure support

Argent Clerist

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Cost: 4
Hp: 30
Attack: 10 (Hammer)
Range: 1
Armor: 2
Pierce: 2
Speed: 3
Vision: 4
Action/Turn: 1
Spell Resistance: 100%

Bonuses: Standard vs Buildings

Spells: Heal (10hp), Strengthen, Disenchant, Exorcism

Actually the Saint was interesting if this is instead of that...


This cleric "is to similar to imperial healer,
And regular cleric has better abilities.
(And area heal with no CD)

This way becomes useless or boring...

Of corse can be balanced but among the rest a healers what this faction provides this
seems the less needed.
And has noting special..

Lynx Shafir wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 4:47 pm Actually the Saint was interesting if this is instead of that...


This cleric "is to similar to imperial healer,
And regular cleric has better abilities.
(And area heal with no CD)

This way becomes useless or boring...

Of corse can be balanced but among the rest a healers what this faction provides this
seems the less needed.
And has noting special..

It is the cheapest of the Argent units, Aside the Goven Herløv. Like cost 3
It is also supposed to be combat ready, wereas Saint is pure support.

Do you have a suggestion to make this combat healer... Less boring.

Is was made as a low cost mix between Paladin and Cleric

New unit to accommodate for Saint becoming pure support


Argent Clerist

Cost: 5
Hp: 38
Attack: 16 (hammer) AOE 1
Range: 1
Armor: 3
Pierce: 3
Speed: 3
Vision: 6
Action/Turn: 1
Spell Resistance: 70%

Bonuses: Standard vs Buildings

Spells: Mass Heal, Etherial Will, Exorcism

That's a mace? Looks like more of a hammer.

Apologies, Edited.

@Makazuwr32 I have made the change in accordance to your specifications, is there any thing else? Or is this ready?

StormSaint373 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:01 pm Apologies, Edited.

@Makazuwr32 I have made the change in accordance to your specifications, is there any thing else? Or is this ready?

Will I think maka wants to make your sub have more uniqueness
That and Alex said he's gonna look over it to accept/reject it

More uniqueness?

Didn't I have the parameters clear? Was there something I missed?

Im only repeating what he said

What do you mean Mak?

I want to change a bit concept for them. I am thinking about it but it will become completely different from what is it now.

what do you mean?
What do you have in mind?

Nothing good for now. I am looking through many ideas.

makazuwr32 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:35 pm Nothing good for now. I am looking through many ideas.

Then it doesn't look to have a good prognosis... I caution you.