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I have examined the map of path's of the dead and I say that this map is ridiculously large.
I have saw a vast number of enemies, paths, obstacles and stuff. But the most ridiculous thing I have saw in this entire game is the number of triggers. Path's of the dead has a total of 171 triggers. As far as I saw, all of them has a cond and effect, except for 1.

I checked the map and imho it's currently impossible to complete within 3 star limit.

QuadrupoleStrat wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:53 am I have examined the map of path's of the dead and I say that this map is ridiculously large.
I have saw a vast number of enemies, paths, obstacles and stuff. But the most ridiculous thing I have saw in this entire game is the number of triggers. Path's of the dead has a total of 171 triggers. As far as I saw, all of them has a cond and effect, except for 1.

Part of those triggers removes walls once unit is close.
All the others make enemies appear out of nowhere.
Those creating enemies close to roads at least makes some sense - others are horror. Enemies suddenly show up in already scouted terrain.
Of course quite big part of triggers shouldn't ever be executed if map is played right (enemies after destroying scout towers), but still - there is enough annoyance.

I had an idea how to make map a little less annoying and winnable with 3 stars, but that was before many changes.
I thought to just boost guard towers heal rate and add some way to repair.
Now it wouldn't be enough.
Sight was decreased. To deal with it one or two scouting units should be added. It may have be light cavalry to keep scheme of mounted army.
Catapult no longer serves the same purpose - even in stand mode it is weaker than at the time of map creation. Current transforms also makes wagon useless.
It may be too much, but it could be replaced with hwacha. Or two balistae.
I believe, that in the spirit of this map is returning to "the base", so repair could be added by mend tower (map editor building), e.g. placed between guard towers.
Proper heal at base would be easiest achieved by chapel - maybe in current wagon location.

This way the spirit of the map should remain the same, but should be doable.

Opinions?

Endru1241 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 15, 2020 4:10 pm Part of those triggers removes walls once unit is close.
All the others make enemies appear out of nowhere.
Those creating enemies close to roads at least makes some sense - others are horror. Enemies suddenly show up in already scouted terrain.
Of course quite big part of triggers shouldn't ever be executed if map is played right (enemies after destroying scout towers), but still - there is enough annoyance.

Ah, that explains the amount of triggers. I also found at the very last trigger, a discarded Easter egg. Trigger 171.

I have nothing against your plans. Stratego can now fix it now that Endru confirmed it.

Actually anyone having an option to modify the map can make changes and sent to stratego.
Don't leave too much on him alone.

Oh right. Sorry.

I'll try to send the modified map when I have time.. Probably.

Yup, definitely needs a fix. It's with the catapult units right? If remember they are more weaker now and can't hit inside towers the actual intention for this map is not applicable anymore.

Badnorth wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:31 am it is impossible to beat as you can see. I would change - Revealed map, Added healers (2), and improved forces or lessened enemy forces. I haven't seen the layout of the map but I will attempt to. Let me try to send you the fixed map.

ok, can u please modify so i can put in?

I will add the things endru suggested..

I added chapel, 2 light cav, 1 elite guerilla, replaced wagon with Hwacha, replaced catapult with mend tower and replaced 1 knight with a heavy knight. Should be more than enough to complete this map.

I have sent the map to the Dev.

Badnorth wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 5:51 am I added chapel, 2 light cav, 1 elite guerilla, replaced wagon with Hwacha, replaced catapult with mend tower and replaced 1 knight with a heavy knight. Should be more than enough to complete this map.

I have sent the map to the Dev.

I have been waiting it so much!☺ Thank you, Badnorth!

I only did what Endru suggested to change though. I just updated the map.
Most of the praise should go to him.

Badnorth wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:18 am I only did what Endru suggested to change though. I just updated the map.
Most of the praise should go to him.

My favourite idea came from you, Badnorth: revealed map

Sadly, the map is still on Fog.
The things that only changed are this -

Badnorth wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 5:51 am I added chapel, 2 light cav, 1 elite guerilla, replaced wagon with Hwacha, replaced catapult with mend tower and replaced 1 knight with a heavy knight.

But light cav with guerilla can provide enough vision. Just reach the end of the road.

Broken again, hwacha weakened

Added wagon (as recompensation for movement taking action), +4 attack and +2 range to hwacha.
Should be in the next dev version.