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Re: Shield wall

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:01 pm
by SirPat
Wait techs have this glass bottle thing at the bottom right corner

Re: Shield wall

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:04 pm
by Badnorth
I think they are automatically added in.. :?:
I saw techs from old topics with no glass bottles.
But ingame there is.

Re: Shield wall

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:09 pm
by SirPat
Like last month they updated the rest of the techs to have that bottle but it wasnt posted on the forums

Re: Shield wall

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:11 pm
by SirPat
I think endru did it

Re: Shield wall

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:12 pm
by Badnorth
I think your right .

Re: Shield wall

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:13 pm
by Badnorth
Any opinions about the suggested idea ?

Re: Shield wall

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:17 pm
by SirPat
Maybe just keep the letter at for other techs that concern paper work

Re: Shield wall

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:19 pm
by Badnorth
Its a scroll for orders sent and formed by a tactician.
Maybe just change it to a map texture?

Re: Shield wall

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:23 pm
by SirPat
Oh good point keep it for all tactician techs and we still need a sprite for the tactician/strategist tent as proposed by endru

Re: Shield wall

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:40 pm
by Endru1241
SirPat wrote: Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:11 pm I think endru did it
You're right.
It was done manually.
Btw. each tech type has different color of bottle icon:
Blue - unit upgrade
Orange - stats boost
Green - unlocks something
No bottle - building self-upgrade

Re: Shield wall

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 2:46 am
by SirPat
Oooh thanks for the info

Re: Shield wall

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 3:15 am
by Badnorth
Im bad at making realistic 3d techs so I did this.
Pasted a bunch of things to scrolls.
Tell thoughts ?

Thigh formation
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Cover formation
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Shield wall formation
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Wedge formation
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Arrow volley formation
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Loose formation
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Ready pike formation
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Re: Shield wall

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 3:27 am
by SirPat
I dont know about ready pike cause. Theirs already a reach tech ingame

Re: Shield wall

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 3:31 am
by Badnorth
I think it will do this to certain pole arm units.
( 1+ Melee armor 1+ Attack to all nearby adjacent units )
( Gives first strike ability , works only in formation or when reach tech is researched )

Re: Shield wall

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:22 am
by Endru1241
I intentionally didn't mention polearm units.
Even meager +1 power gives them too much power against their main targets. It's especially true for pure anti-mounted units. Spearman getting +1 power really benefits much more than others - it's +5.5 (rounded down if needed) vs all mounted and + 8 vs elephants.
This problem in swordsman/classic medium melee case will be solved, as I plan to decrese mega-buildings hp along eith bonuses vs them to fortification level.
Anti-mounted however will still be like that - any increased power practically means one-shoting mounted units.

Also - cover icon shield may be mistaken with shield wall - too similar shields.

Re: Shield wall

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:33 am
by Badnorth
I'll replace it with a round shield

Re: Shield wall

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:41 am
by Badnorth
Cover tacti.png
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?

Re: Shield wall

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:42 am
by L4cus
its not a round shield, but its good!

Re: Shield wall

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:45 am
by Badnorth
Lol I totally forgot about round shield
Cover tacti.png
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Re: Shield wall

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:48 am
by Badnorth
:/

Re: Shield wall

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:49 am
by Badnorth
I'll start the indicators

Re: Shield wall

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:12 am
by Badnorth
Is this all?

Re: Shield wall

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:15 am
by Badnorth
wait we already have arrow volley on page one.
Pls compare to decide what to use.

Re: Shield wall

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:24 am
by Badnorth
Is the indicators good?

Re: Shield wall

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 1:37 pm
by SirPat
Wedge formation icon looks like a helmet

Re: Shield wall

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 2:33 pm
by Badnorth
What? Icon ? Or do u mean indicator ?

Its a horse shoe.

Re: Shield wall

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:22 am
by SirPat
Sorry i meant indicator

Re: Shield wall

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:00 pm
by Morningwarrior
In my mind i think this abilty affect only sheild bearer and big sheild bearer troops,when have two or more in line give all this troops +1 for pierce armor.