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Re: main musket line

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 9:30 pm
by L4cus
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can the green color be edited please?

Re: main musket line

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 9:55 pm
by Gral.Sturnn
The green of the muskets?

Re: main musket line

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 10:08 pm
by L4cus
he muzzle and the furkets have green parts

Re: main musket line

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:23 pm
by Squirrel5555
Colour change

Re: main musket line

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:05 am
by L4cus
there is left the first upgrade for the musket line
i think it could have a plug-bayonet and some knid of hat of those years
if u notice the upgrade techs we have for musekts are all hats...so we could use that concept

btw, the upgrade techs need the blue bottle

Re: main musket line

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:16 am
by Gral.Sturnn
Done

Re: main musket line

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:21 am
by L4cus
those are the same :?

Re: main musket line

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:30 am
by Gral.Sturnn
Xd sorry wrong file

Re: main musket line

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:31 am
by Gral.Sturnn
Here they are

Re: main musket line

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:12 pm
by DreJaDe
Squirrel5555 wrote: Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:23 pm Colour change
Hmmm would this be a free to all or specific unit for the english? If its soecific then shouldnt there be a red part?

Re: main musket line

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:13 pm
by L4cus
these are only for england
red coats my friend
i dont know if every facion will have its own version, with different sprite and stats
by now, british is the priority so this is for british

Re: main musket line

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:24 pm
by Squirrel5555
DreJaDe wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:12 pm
Squirrel5555 wrote: Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:23 pm Colour change
Hmmm would this be a free to all or specific unit for the english? If its soecific then shouldnt there be a red part?
That one specifically I didn't make, so I am not sure, just needed to change some green to brown. That is the 16th century musketeer I guess.

The 17, 18, and 19th century images are all England specific.

Many people are not making England specific images.

Re: main musket line

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:44 pm
by DreJaDe
Well then. I take the liberation to change some parts. Also fixed the hat cause the team color is wrong.

Re: main musket line

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:58 pm
by Gral.Sturnn
I made it as a genric unit that could fit any faction really

Re: main musket line

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:05 pm
by DreJaDe
Gral.Sturnn wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:58 pm I made it as a genric unit that could fit any faction really
Well thats helpful since when they became for specific the original could easily be recolored.

Re: main musket line

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2020 11:46 pm
by L4cus
REBALANCE SUGGESTED!
for gameply sake, i am thinking that main musket line could be a 3 turns unit
so we would have a 2 turns unit, with the main cheap infantry role: "recruits" (the name is attached to changes)

the 1 turn infantry unit would be levies, militias later. the weapons they could use are: spears, bows, crossbows, pikes, arquebuses, muskets.
the variety deppends on the faction, as well as the quality of these very cheap units.

the 3 turns main infantry unit is this: "musketeers"

*recruits and levies/militia are not affected by some formation spells*

here u can suggest new stats, or u can post ur disagreement.

Re: main musket line

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:11 am
by Gral.Sturnn
im willing to make more sprites but only if they work for all factions (except ottoman empire and russia)

Re: main musket line

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 1:31 am
by Gral.Sturnn
don we have militia units already?

i think we are just missing the musket militia on pair with the militia of all the other eras

Re: main musket line

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 1:57 am
by L4cus
we have pike levies...nothing else

Re: main musket line

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 2:12 am
by Gral.Sturnn
Pikes, spears and archers i think

Re: main musket line

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 2:21 am
by L4cus
for levies, yes
we need and upgrade for pike levies, to "pike militia", bow levies could also be upgraded, but spears no T_T.
arquebus militia apears at renaissance, since muskets were more expensive and heavier.
so this would be the scheme:

medieval era:
-spear levies
-bow levies
-pike levies

renaissance:
-pike militia
-arquebus militia
-bow militia

discoveries era:
-musket militia

btw i will make a topic for this i think. please dont post anything related to this. i will copy and paste on its own topic

Re: main musket line

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:54 am
by DreJaDe
I actually want to disagree with this since 3 turn units as main are boring but its not like cavalry didnt get popularize also in AOS which is always a 4 turn unit so idk. If everyone agree then im in.

Re: main musket line

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:48 am
by Squirrel5555
But most importantly you should give a reason.

Why should we add another tier of units between levies/militia and line infantry? Is there any point, or just making the game slower? Is it too hard to balance right now, or something else?

Re: main musket line

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:55 am
by L4cus
mmh, if u ask me a reason, it wouldbe something like i muskets were actually more expensive and harder to use than arquebus, so them both costing the same doesnt make sense to me. dercesing arquebus cos to 1 isnt a viable solution.
mmh, btw the uniforms we are using for red coats and upgrades were actually well trained troops, actually well known units by the great battles they fought.
also, some other units like grenadiers would now cost 4 turns so they would fit as an elite shock unit. no spell needsa rework, just change some stats like hp, atack, abilitypower, armor, and obviously cost, so its not that hard
ubt if u think it shouldnt be like that then is ok

Re: main musket line

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 2:31 pm
by Squirrel5555
Those reasons are good, you convinced me :D I forgot about units like arquebusiers. Okay, let's do this change!

Re: main musket line

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:43 pm
by Gral.Sturnn
english arquebusier forgot about this one

Re: main musket line

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:53 pm
by L4cus
arquebuisers has its own topic!!!!!
be carefull about that