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Re: English units
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:09 am
by Squirrel5555
Ok i've updated my dragoons a bit. They are 17th century, so I think @DreJaDe yours could be used as the 18th century version instead of 19th? They can be an upgrade to the 17th century dragoons, as yours also look much more ornate. Maybe rename yours to 'Dragoon Guards', as these were the more elite dragoons.
Re: English units
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:05 am
by Badnorth
Flail Soldiers
The longer cylindrical-headed flail is a hand weapon derived from the agricultural tool of the same name, commonly used in threshing. It was primarily considered a peasant's weapon, and while not common, they were deployed in Germany and Central Europe in the later Late Middle Ages.
Re: English units
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:44 am
by Badnorth
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Re: English units
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:20 am
by Badnorth
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Re: English units
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:27 am
by L4cus
Sorry i am getting confused...didnt we already have landsknetch pikemen ?
We are getting to the point we are repeating units...
Also, barbarians are too far away from the game concept...it could be a ester egg or an special unit, but i think those kind of unit can wait till we get a pre beta version...dont u thini so?
Re: English units
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:10 pm
by Badnorth
W8 we already habe landskhect ???
I am vry sorry I dntd know
Re: English units
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:51 pm
by Squirrel5555
You know how this topic is called "English Units"?
only post english units here. Units that arent even in the time period you can post in a new topic if you really want to. Swiss guard belong in a 'mercenary' topic or something.
How is json work going? We have many units with ready images.
Re: English units
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:03 pm
by DreJaDe
Remade some parts
I checked again, it's between 18th to 19th century.
Re: English units
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:18 pm
by DreJaDe
Kinda Wei that the horse is gone when unmounted so I added this.
Re: English units
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:22 pm
by Gral.Sturnn
very cool sprites Dre
Re: English units
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:35 pm
by Gral.Sturnn
arent dragoons meant to ride their horses to strategic positions and then dsimount to use short muskets?
Re: English units
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:01 pm
by Badnorth
Ive run out of ideas for English units, any suggestions on what sprite I should do next?
Btw please go to the militia tech and tell your opinions on what I wrote there
Bandit & Rogue Neutrals for the gsme.
Thanks!
Re: English units
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:43 pm
by Gral.Sturnn
Re: English units
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:03 pm
by Maxbirykov2004
Re: English units
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:13 pm
by Badnorth
Is this good?
Re: English units
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:17 pm
by Maxbirykov2004
Amm could you draw 6 units in one Sprite like here
11 (1 is 1 unit)
11
11
Re: English units
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:20 pm
by Badnorth
Maxbirykov2004 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:33 pm
Guys, i have idea about line infantry, as i know line and then column tactics was at 16...-18... and lines was long and pretty. deadly
MAX whatt???
Like this????
Re: English units
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:22 pm
by Badnorth
If it includes crouching im out. Sorry
Ive had a very bad history with crouching sprites.
Re: English units
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:23 pm
by Maxbirykov2004
Yes
Re: English units
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:24 pm
by Maxbirykov2004
But could you do something like this? But could you add amm... crowding...
Re: English units
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:25 pm
by Maxbirykov2004
And also battle mode, when half of them sit down
Re: English units
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:27 pm
by Gral.Sturnn
think i can help
Re: English units
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:29 pm
by Badnorth
Maxbirykov2004 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:24 pm
But could you do something like this? But could you add amm... crowding...
As I said im sick and tired of making crouching sprites so I am sorry I cant help ya with that
Re: English units
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:29 pm
by Squirrel5555
Gral.Sturnn wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:35 pm
arent dragoons meant to ride their horses to strategic positions and then dsimount to use short muskets?
That was the earliest version of dragoons. 17th and onwards their role changed to mostly ranged cavalry, that could also dismount and fight in melee.
I dont know about the image with horses still there. It is a bit weird that they fight along side their horses
they would probably be tied down a bit away from the fighting so they wouldnt bolt.
Also not sure about your idea, Max. How is that going to be pulled off? Id rather just have units like before
Re: English units
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:46 pm
by Gral.Sturnn
sprite
Re: English units
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:47 pm
by Gral.Sturnn
Squirrel5555 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:29 pm
Gral.Sturnn wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:35 pm
arent dragoons meant to ride their horses to strategic positions and then dsimount to use short muskets?
That was the earliest version of dragoons. 17th and onwards their role changed to mostly ranged cavalry, that could also dismount and fight in melee.
I dont know about the image with horses still there. It is a bit weird that they fight along side their horses
they would probably be tied down a bit away from the fighting so they wouldnt bolt.
Also not sure about your idea, Max. How is that going to be pulled off? Id rather just have units like before
didnt they used fancy hats at first? i think in the early 17th century they did use hats and little armor in pair with their coats.
as for crouching maybe we can have 2 sprites one were they stand and can move, and another one where they crouch but are immovile, similar to the pavise corssbowman
Re: English units
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:50 pm
by Maxbirykov2004
Re: English units
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:31 pm
by Squirrel5555
Ok here is the 17th century line infantry.
What will be the upgrade trees? This is another important thing to determine.
Line Infantry (17th century) -> Line infantry (18th century)
Will the musketeer (we have a sprite for it already somewhere in this topic) be the first level of the line infantry, and therefore 16th century units, or will it be a completely different line
Re: English units
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:56 pm
by L4cus
I posted it. It was something like:
Musketmen (16th century)
Musketeers (17th century)
Line infantry (18th century)
since eras will be: late medieval, renaissance, discoveries and napoleonic. Musket upgrade line wont be recutable at late medieval.
What do u think squirrel?
Re: English units
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:48 pm
by Squirrel5555
I like that idea.
However, we still don't have musketman sprite.
Also since this includes Napoleonic wars we need an early 19th century sprite. Quadrupole drew nice line infantry with hats from that period so that is a good match, I added here also.
I will attach them all here, with their centuries written in front of their name, only musketman is missing for this line.