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Re: Mounting

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:38 am
by Savra
Updated.

Re: Mounting

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:02 am
by Savra
Another.

Re: Mounting

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:19 am
by Savra
Another.

Re: Mounting

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:36 am
by Savra
Last one till I get the in game unicorn knight and lancer.

Re: Mounting

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:28 am
by DreJaDe
Savra wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:36 am Last one till I get the in game unicorn knight and lancer.
Is it just me or that elf is way too revealing?

Re: Mounting

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:35 pm
by Dagravian
Sword Dancer img is giant compared to the mounts xD Could you shrink it a bit?

Re: Mounting

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 1:27 pm
by Alexander82
Savra, in the original images the archers have their arrow already in line with their bow. I realized that in some images could be needed to change their stance a bit but in most you should be able to keep the arrow in its original position

Re: Mounting

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 2:11 pm
by Alexander82
Btw @Savra , put a few more free tiles between the eagle riders and their shadows, this whay it will look more as they are flying.

Re: Mounting

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 2:36 pm
by Alexander82
I don't know if itcan help you but I was trying this approach for elven archers (It requires a lot of work though, that was not finalized anyway and later I gave them proper bows instead of those thin lines)

Re: Mounting

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:12 pm
by Savra
Hmm..., maybe I should just remake the elf archer, lancer, swordsmen, fire archer, and quick archer to bring them up to date, as well as give them proper attire for being soldiers and not looking like they were conscripted straight out of the amazon. :lol:

Re: Mounting

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:14 pm
by Savra
DoomsdayDragonfire wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:35 pm Sword Dancer img is giant compared to the mounts xD Could you shrink it a bit?
Ya, I planned to shrink it, I just ran out of time.

Re: Mounting

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:21 pm
by Savra
Something like this seems more likely and plus I was going to do it anyway.

Re: Mounting

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 7:33 pm
by Savra
Here's the squirrel mount of a few.

Re: Mounting

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 8:17 pm
by Alexander82
Savra wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:12 pm Hmm..., maybe I should just remake the elf archer, lancer, swordsmen, fire archer, and quick archer to bring them up to date, as well as give them proper attire for being soldiers and not looking like they were conscripted straight out of the amazon. :lol:
I think they look uniques enough, wood elves are more like hippies xD

please stick with existing units

Re: Mounting

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:49 pm
by Savra
I prefer this style instead, it suites better when combined with the armour upgrades, I doubt an armoured bra will help in protecting the body from projectiles and melee weapons :lol: . This makes more sense hippies or not.

Re: Mounting

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2020 4:51 am
by Tankhead
1. 9 outta 10 times an Elf would dodge than Endure a hit

2. That Bra is Light weight armor, Its just There for Insurance if they don't Successfully dodge.
Not much but again dodging they're thing.

3. Squirrels are pretty fast and move different from horses, even if Elves Natural good archers they aren't all Experts and masters and considering how Squirrels move wouldn't work.
Also Squirrels are Extremely fast, we don't need a fire Archer Capable of speeds of an mounted Scout, and the dodge would be insane

4. I don't see how a Squirrel fits better than Unicorns

Re: Mounting

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2020 6:24 am
by Savra
1. I'd say it's more like a 7 out of 10.

2. That's taking lightweight armour a little far, and still leaves the rest of the body, the vital parts, exposed to enemy attacks. That being said, more coverage would be something they would prefer. Even Meso Americans wear more armour then these elves and they live in a similar environment and fight in a similar style, their As light weight as you can get with armour (the common soldier had cotton for armour material), these previous elves aren't and it doesn't make sense for them to look in such a manner (this isn't anime, and though it may be fantasy some realism for unit attire is still needed).

3. I don't know what's going on with the squirrel that was just thrown in here so not really sure what to think about it. Fire archers having good speeds is fine considering they got lower range now.

4.Their getting both, I just edited the squirrel ones first. Their getting eagles, unicorns, dolphins, and squirrel mounts apparently.

Re: Mounting

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2020 6:39 am
by Stratego (dev)
nice images!
the squirell tail looks like big hair for units, so maybe reposistining tail?

Re: Mounting

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2020 10:59 am
by Tankhead
If your doing it purely for looks, keep in mind skins will be a thing.
( Already is in game just no skin )

Also......How many mounted units so far for elves

Re: Mounting

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2020 12:10 pm
by Alexander82
Savra wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:49 pm I prefer this style instead, it suites better when combined with the armour upgrades, I doubt an armoured bra will help in protecting the body from projectiles and melee weapons :lol: . This makes more sense hippies or not.
ok, never mind, if you don't want to make the image I need I will do it on my own when I will have time.

Re: Mounting

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2020 12:16 pm
by Alexander82
Tankhead wrote: Sat Jun 06, 2020 4:51 am 1. 9 outta 10 times an Elf would dodge than Endure a hit

2. That Bra is Light weight armor, Its just There for Insurance if they don't Successfully dodge.
Not much but again dodging they're thing.

3. Squirrels are pretty fast and move different from horses, even if Elves Natural good archers they aren't all Experts and masters and considering how Squirrels move wouldn't work.
Also Squirrels are Extremely fast, we don't need a fire Archer Capable of speeds of an mounted Scout, and the dodge would be insane

4. I don't see how a Squirrel fits better than Unicorns
1) fine

2) I won't change their look, I will make those myself when I have time

3) that's why every mount will require a separate tech (it is a form of training), anyway we might consider @makazuwr32 idea and use deers as a 5 land speed unit for cost 2 and we might give unicorn 3 cost and 6 speed (I think we can all discuss the balance of certain combinations)

4) It was @Lynx Shafir suggestion. I wasn't very keen about using squirrels for all elves as a mount but as an alternative special mount could work.

Re: Mounting

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2020 5:09 pm
by makazuwr32
i'd say maybe than just forget about squirrels and replace them with deers (including speed stats of them).

Re: Mounting

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2020 5:53 pm
by Savra
Alexander82 wrote: Sat Jun 06, 2020 12:10 pm
Savra wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:49 pm I prefer this style instead, it suites better when combined with the armour upgrades, I doubt an armoured bra will help in protecting the body from projectiles and melee weapons :lol: . This makes more sense hippies or not.
ok, never mind, if you don't want to make the image I need I will do it on my own when I will have time.
Fine, but I won't leave you with nothing to help at least. Here, so you don't have to crop out the others.

Re: Mounting

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 7:21 pm
by erosbonjour
:lol: good 👍

Re: Mounting

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 5:51 pm
by Savra
Ya it's taking too long.
Here is this what you wanted? @Alexander82 (hey that time it worked, huh.)

Re: Mounting

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:49 pm
by Alexander82
Savra wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 5:51 pm Ya it's taking too long.
Here is this what you wanted? @Alexander82 (hey that time it worked, huh.)
I wasn't asking to use my attempt, I just wanted the mounted unit to look like the land unit without having to uniform all of those (also in my opinion is better if elven units aren't all looking too alike cause they have no tiers and thus they can be easily recognizeable).

Anyway those images are fine for me as other attempts were as well (I just wanted the arrows nocked).

Re: Mounting

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 6:34 pm
by Savra
Now to figure out a remake for the blade dancers mounted form...hmm.

Re: Mounting

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 6:41 pm
by Savra
About the mounts though, what if instead of producing them why don't we make a sacred grove that elves can build that can summon one of these mounts as a neutral creature (that way it coincides with the nature tech) similar to the graveyard towers summoning of a corpse. It would also double as a means to watch over your base to keep invisible units at bay.

Re: Mounting

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:52 pm
by Alexander82
These abilities will already provide a faster way to recruit costly units. In terms of cost/efficiency will be already much better than humans' money couriers. I think it will be pretty fine for them to be produced the old way, also I think that a player should be able to "control" the production of those units.

Re: Mounting

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:54 pm
by Alexander82
here I'm providing you the latest version of those units:

I've made mounted warrior and swordsman more alike

Also you can notice that the unicorn has a team colored horn (I needed to add team color to the base unit and I think it should keep it when it becomes a mount)