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Heavy cavalry bannerets
Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:00 pm
by Phantomstriker
Heavy cavary of france that uses lances,sword and axes at the same time are slow for this but great to combat infantry and cavalry
Stats
Cost 6
Hp 40
Damage 10
Armor 3
P armor 5
Sight 4
Heal bonus 1.0
Resistance 100%
Bonus
Melee foot and ranged 50%
Mounted 20%
Siegue machine 20%
Class
Heavy cav anti range anti infantry
Anti mounted
Good unit but not invencible are slow and heavy cavalry class no heal bonus only 1.0.
Other speed cavalry is good guard for this slow unit
Re: Heavy cavalry bannerets
Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:53 am
by Hyuhjhih
Phantomstriker wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:00 pm
Heavy cavary of france that uses lances,sword and axes at the same time are slow for this but great to combat infantry and cavalry
Stats
Cost 6
Hp 40
Damage 10
Armor 3
P armor 5
Sight 4
Heal bonus 1.0
Resistance 100%
Bonus
Melee foot and ranged 50%
Mounted 20%
Siegue machine 20%
Class
Heavy cav anti range anti infantry
Anti mounted
Good unit but not invencible are slow and heavy cavalry class no heal bonus only 1.0.
Other speed cavalry is good guard for this slow unit
Hp 40》36
Armour 3/5》3/3
Mounted 20%》50%
Siege 20%》50%
Speed 3,4 (you haven't mentioned it else than it is slow heavy cav)
Re: Heavy cavalry bannerets
Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:18 pm
by Phantomstriker
Hp 40》36
Armour 3/5》3/3
Mounted 20%》50%
Siege 20%》50%
Speed 3,4 (you haven't mentioned it else than it is slow heavy cav)
Sorry 3 speed because it need light cav to reach the foot infantry
Re: Heavy cavalry bannerets
Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:45 pm
by Squirrel5555
So I've read about "knight bannerets". They are higher ranking knights with square shaped banners to distinguish them, leading a company of troops.
Maybe we forget the part mentioning lower speed, and make him a more expensive knight which gives some sort of buff to surrounding infantry? Maybe lower the stats alongside this and make him more of a support role.
Re: Heavy cavalry bannerets
Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:14 pm
by Phantomstriker
Im thinking more in an french based heavy cavalry the buff can be 1 of power for other cavalry an more costly 7 turns
Re: Heavy cavalry bannerets
Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:44 pm
by Squirrel5555
I don't see the reason for this to be French specifically... Bannerets were present in other countries such as England too.
Re: Heavy cavalry bannerets
Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:06 pm
by Squirrel5555
Cost:6
HP:45
Attack power:10
Range: 1
Armour:2
P armour: 2
Speed: 5
Sight: 5
+50% ranged, melee foot, siege machine
+100% siege machine armoured
Aura: 3 tiles, maybe +1 armour?
Also I'm not convinced what colour the cloak should be. I dont think the unit needs more team colour.
Re: Heavy cavalry bannerets
Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:52 pm
by Phantomstriker
Squirrel5555 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:44 pm
I don't see the reason for this to be French specifically... Bannerets were present in other countries such as England too.
Not french based in is cavalry hiper heavy and efective against other cav can split the idea and make other post
Re: Heavy cavalry bannerets
Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:48 pm
by Phantomstriker
Squirrel5555 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:06 pm
Cost:6
HP:45
Attack power:10
Range: 1
Armour:2
P armour: 2
Speed: 5
Sight: 5
+50% ranged, melee foot, siege machine
+100% siege machine armoured
Aura: 3 tiles, maybe +1 armour?
Also I'm not convinced what colour the cloak should be. I dont think the unit needs more team colour.
Or +1speed
Re: Heavy cavalry bannerets
Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:25 pm
by Squirrel5555
+1 speed in a 3 tile aura would be far too powerful. I think some sort of small defensive buff to show increased discipline is the best option.
Nothing major as the unit itself is still similar in strength to a heavy knight, (lower armour and attacking capabilities than a cavalier to show burden of carrying the banner) but it can still be a decent support option.
Maybe even +1/1 armour?
And I still want to change the cloak to a different colour
Re: Heavy cavalry bannerets
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 12:18 am
by Squirrel5555
Description: A knight banneret was a medieval knight who led a company of troops under his own banner, which was a distinctly shaped square, in contrast to the pennon flown by lower ranking knights. Their military rank was higher than that of knights who fought under another's banner, however was lower than that of an earl or duke.
Re: Heavy cavalry bannerets
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 12:30 am
by Squirrel5555
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Re: Heavy cavalry bannerets
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:15 am
by Phantomstriker
And 1 more power
Re: Heavy cavalry bannerets
Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:47 pm
by Squirrel5555
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Re: Heavy cavalry bannerets
Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:14 am
by Hyuhjhih
Squirrel5555 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:47 pm
New image, but idea would require a complete overhaul I think
also what should go on this dude's banner. I left it blank for now
This is better than before.
I would say a small AoS emblem lol.
Re: Heavy cavalry bannerets
Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:30 am
by Morningwarrior
we remember a very similar idea to what I had in mind, it was called banner knight, but I think this one already takes the place
Knight Banneret
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:48 pm
by L4cus
Knight bannerets were knights that tool control of armies (very simplyfied)
Cost 6
hp 40
attack 10
range 1
armour 4/3
speed 5
sight 6
CR 100%
same bonuses as knight
arura: high morale
aura: chivalry (or hearldry)
range 2
power +2
armour +1/+0
affected: knights (foot knights, knights, lancers, shield knights)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knight_banneret
Re: Heavy cavalry bannerets
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 2:11 am
by godOfKings
so kind of a mounted banner bearer?
Re: Heavy cavalry bannerets
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 2:38 am
by L4cus
yes but heavy cavalry...
Re: Knight Banneret
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 1:05 pm
by phoenixffyrnig
L4cus wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:48 pm
Knight bannerets were knights that tool control of armies (very simplyfied)
Cost 6
hp 40
attack 10
range 1
armour 4/3
speed 5
sight 6
CR 100%
same bonuses as knight
arura: high morale
aura: chivalry (or hearldry)
range 2
power +2
armour +1/+0
affected: knights (foot knights, knights, lancers, shield knights)
I like the ideas. I'd suggest range 3 for auras (and prefer the name chivalry).
Are you thinking trainable only in Castle? I think we could do with a more royal sounding name tbh, something that sounds a bit cooler, and combines the leadership role with castle origin like Baron or Castellan.
Re: Heavy cavalry bannerets
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 1:31 pm
by L4cus
well, its supossed to buff knights units specially since each faction has its own buffing aura...
about the name i dont raelly care...
Re: Heavy cavalry bannerets
Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 6:53 pm
by Squirrel5555
Yes
Re: Heavy cavalry bannerets
Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 6:54 pm
by L4cus
what a nice turkey helmet squir
Re: Heavy cavalry bannerets
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 7:01 am
by Squirrel5555
Thanks
peacock feathers
Castellan
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:24 pm
by L4cus
Castellan was a gobernor of a castle
Cost 6
hp 42
attack 10
range 1
armour 4/3
speed 5
sight 5
CR 100%
same bonuses as knight
arura: high morale
aura: chivalry (or hearldry)
range 3
power +2
armour +1/+0
affected: knights (foot knights, knights, lancers, shield knights) - should religious knights be affected as well, since they were knights in the title meaning?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castellan