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Post WW2 units - AOMW CLOSED
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:24 am
by Stratego (dev)
Came up this possibility too: question is what do forumers think about extending AOW instead of making a new alternative AOMW for modern warfare.
in a Nutshell:
- Simply putting in a few new industry levels (up to recent days)
- These levels bring in new units of given "industry" level
- And some unit will no longer be buildable in next levels (eg. being obsolete tank designs)
- all new industry level will have its "default units" (that do not cost gems in upgrades section), so all palyable
- Some unit might go auto-upgrade existing ones, eg fixed defensive artillery can be some kind of rocket thing.
- Some nations can change flags + name in new industry levels to appear as post ww2 flags and names (but still being same nation)
Re: Post WW2 units - AOMW
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:43 am
by Gruppenführer Erwin
I have a few questions:
1-)What will happen if players want to play WW2 only or Modern only?
2-)Will the modern stuff be so expensive and op?
3-)How will the splitted nations work?Like Germany split into East and West Germany
Re: Post WW2 units - AOMW
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:34 am
by TrueSlav
Stratego (dev) wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:24 am
Came up this possibility too: question is what do forumers think about extending AOW instead of making a new alternative AOMW for modern warfare.
in a Nutshell:
- Simply putting in a few new industry levels (up to recent days)
- These levels bring in new units of given "industry" level
- And some unit will no longer be buildable in next levels (eg. being obsolete tank designs)
- all new industry level will have its "default units" (that do not cost gems in upgrades section), so all palyable
- Some unit might go auto-upgrade existing ones, eg fixed defensive artillery can be some kind of rocket thing.
- Some nations can change flags + name in new industry levels to appear as post ww2 flags and names (but still being same nation)
I'm against, looks like too much of a challange to balance WW2 and modern units.
plus i don't think the community would react positively to such decision.
Re: Post WW2 units - AOMW
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:35 am
by Harchie Hirondo
How about the WW1 units, and other things?
WW2 is correlated to WW1, and due to that war WW2 is to be expected.
Plus, balancing AoW will become much harder with this change, if AoMW is to be included in.
Re: Post WW2 units - AOMW
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:36 am
by Gruppenführer Erwin
Harchie Hirondo wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:35 am
How about the WW1 units, and other things?
WW2 is correlated to WW1, and due to that war WW2 is to be expected.
Plus, balancing AoW will become much harder with this change, if AoMW is to be included in.
This sounds better
Re: Post WW2 units - AOMW
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 11:28 am
by DreJaDe
No?
There are artillery today that can reach 1000km. Yes 1000km!
There are also nuclear that can reach from all over the world.
The fighter jets also are way too fast also.
If this units enter a game that started on ww2.
They would go all over the map in no time.
Re: Post WW2 units - AOMW
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 1:18 pm
by GeneralWadaling
This would end up having the game with excess units and eras.
The game is not Sid Merier's Civilization anyways.
Also, yes, the settings between these two eras (WW2 and Cold War), the military doctrines, tech level and factions are already hugely different. The two settings are not fully compatible.
Re: Post WW2 units - AOMW
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 2:09 pm
by ZakTheBuilder1
Not only would it have obsolete units it would take up a good portion of storage :O
Re: Post WW2 units - AOMW
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:12 pm
by Stratego (dev)
Gruppenführer Erwin wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:43 am
I have a few questions:
1-)What will happen if players want to play WW2 only or Modern only?
2-)Will the modern stuff be so expensive and op?
3-)How will the splitted nations work?Like Germany split into East and West Germany
1. we can implement option for "starting indistry level" on game start (was a request already.)
2. not sure i understand - modern will not be more expensive imho i mean a plane with same sole will cost the same - but it is tobe defined later.
3. splitted nations: i would not make such eg. Germany would remain Germany. - or is here any specific weirdity in this?
Re: Post WW2 units - AOMW
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:13 pm
by Stratego (dev)
DreJaDe wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 11:28 am
No?
There are artillery today that can reach 1000km. Yes 1000km!
There are also nuclear that can reach from all over the world.
The fighter jets also are way too fast also.
If this units enter a game that started on ww2.
They would go all over the map in no time.
1000km, nuclear, jets: this is problem in both version imho.
Re: Post WW2 units - AOMW
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:13 pm
by Stratego (dev)
ZakTheBuilder1 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 2:09 pm
Not only would it have obsolete units it would take up a good portion of storage :O
yes
Re: Post WW2 units - AOMW
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:15 pm
by Stratego (dev)
GeneralWadaling wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 1:18 pm
This would end up having the game with excess units and eras.
The game is not Sid Merier's Civilization anyways.
Also, yes, the settings between these two eras (WW2 and Cold War), the military doctrines, tech level and factions are already hugely different. The two settings are not fully compatible.
actually my question here is that do we want a
"CIV" like age-advancing game, or more likely in a
single "age" game (as AOW now in only WW2)
compatibility: yes that would need work - and maybe hard to make.
Re: Post WW2 units - AOMW
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:15 pm
by Stratego (dev)
ok i made a poll, if mayority dislike my idea i will cancel from my mind
Re: Post WW2 units - AOMW
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:17 pm
by Shark guy 35
GeneralWadaling wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 1:18 pm
Also, yes, the settings between these two eras (WW2 and Cold War), the military doctrines, tech level and factions are already hugely different. The two settings are not fully compatible.
I agree with this. I would also like to include World War 1 units, but I fell like the same principle would apply.
Re: Post WW2 units - AOMW
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:39 pm
by Gruppenführer Erwin
Stratego (dev) wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:15 pm
ok i made a poll, if mayority dislike my idea i will cancel from my mind
I do not agree with adding modern stuff to aow
Shark guy 35 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:17 pm
GeneralWadaling wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 1:18 pm
Also, yes, the settings between these two eras (WW2 and Cold War), the military doctrines, tech level and factions are already hugely different. The two settings are not fully compatible.
I agree with this. I would also like to include World War 1 units, but I fell like the same principle would apply.
I asked him about WW1 too,He refused.Said that it has too few tanks and peoples interest is tanks
Re: Post WW2 units - AOMW
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 6:02 pm
by Stratego (dev)
ok i see mostly wanted a new game alterantive.
so "Let is be!".
vote is closed - thanks!
daniel