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The 3 most common wepions on a vican badifeild was the axe, Spear and bows/arrows.
Stats
Cost 3
Hp 12
Attack power 6
Range 5
Armor 0
Pierce armor 5
Speed 4
Action /tern 1/1
Mental resistances 20
Bonus damage
+3 to. Light/medium/heavy foot melee, flying, light calvary

Will some one reply it has been 3 days.

Spear_snake wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:21 am The 3 most common wepions on a vican badifeild was the axe, Spear and bows/arrows.
Stats
Cost 3
Hp 12
Attack power 6
Range 5
Armor 0
Pierce armor 5
Speed 4
Action /tern 1/1
Mental resistances 20
Bonus damage
+3 to. Light/medium/heavy foot melee, flying, light calvary

Archers, by fact are non armor piercing, while the crossbow can in reality.

The idea is not clear enough. Do you want an archer with arrows,axe throw and spear all at a time . I am afraid if it is even acceptable.

And if i can interpret, although may seem useless
Cost 5
Hp 30
Att 10
Rng 4
Arm 0/5
Speed 3
MR 40%
At archery range

Skirmisher bonuses.

This can do exactly the same thing you said earlier, but as a heavy duty javelin thrower.

Cat: heavy foot, ranged, anti-archers,

Dont we have an Scandinavian archer that can also use melee axe?

godOfKings wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 5:28 am Dont we have an Scandinavian archer that can also use melee axe?

Thats actually a melee axeman, who wields a backup fire bow.
The raider archer.

Sorry it is a fact that axes spears and bows were the most common, and we needed more of these. I was thinking a archer that could peirce armer with a special arrow called the bodkin point.

Crossbows were the ones used to pierce armor, bows will have a hard time piercing one.

Ah, the chiselled arrows, the Bodkin. it is common around the medieval times.

Cost 4
Hp 25
Att 7
Rng 4(bodkin were one among the heaviest arrows to be fired using bows)
Arm 2/4
Speed 3
MR 40%
At archery range

No bonus. Neglect armour

Cat: heavy foot, ranged, archers, armour penetrating.

But i think it should be another merc with leaving 4

They were shot with both bow and crossbow but the crossbow were not used in war fair until the 1400s and the Viking ear/age ended in the 1000s

If leaving then cost can b 3 turns

Cost 3
Hp 20
Att 7
Rng 4(bodkin were one among the heaviest arrows to be fired using bows)
Arm 2/3
Speed 3
MR 40%
At archery range

Active effects
Leaving (4)

No bonus. Neglect armour

Cat: medium foot, ranged, archers, armour penetrating.

Stats look nice, i don't know what the heavy foot melee category is for though.
Archers category is already a big disadvantage, i don't think adding it is necessary.

without archers category how will ordinary skirmisher kill it? now that i think about it, isnt it op against skirmisher? no matter how heavy the arrow, even if pierces through shield it is only rarely going all the way through, should unarmored and heavy armored infantry both really get same damage from arrows?

godOfKings wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:11 am without archers category how will ordinary skirmisher kill it? now that i think about it, isnt it op against skirmisher? no matter how heavy the arrow, even if pierces through shield it is only rarely going all the way through, should unarmored and heavy armored infantry both really get same damage from arrows?

Even normal skirmisher can survive a hit from it.

How about miss*speed or miss*armour for taking account of heavy and light foot melee. (I won't appreciate it though)

instead of ignore armor, just give it same bonus as crossbow with higher damage and lower range for heavy arrow

godOfKings wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 9:02 am instead of ignore armor, just give it same bonus as crossbow with higher damage and lower range for heavy arrow

Exactly.
I don't want any ranged unit with ingore armor spec, because they could be used against things, that are supposed to be virtually indestructible by ranged attacks (e.g. structures).

And on the whole - Nordic culture or their later descendants were never really known for any exceptional ranged weapons technology, nor speciality.
Raider is already great representation of one thing related to missile warfare that could be said about nordic warriors - many or most used bow, when needed.

As for introducing this as universal unit - is there really a point with existing anti-armor shooters, being better representation?

what if there were bonus damage agents heavy and medium / Calvary and foot. that way they could not do lots of damage on structures. but still armor pierce 1

Spear_snake wrote: ↑Thu Mar 25, 2021 1:44 pm what if there were bonus damage agents heavy and medium / Calvary and foot. that way they could not do lots of damage on structures.

It was already proposed by GoK that it should be Crossbow Bonuses. Which is the exactly same as your suggestion.