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Rename Scout to Scout Dog? ACCEPTED

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:49 am
by Badnorth
Perhaps renaming Scout to Scout dog? @Endru1241?
It might be a little confusing for some as Scout usually implies to a unit doing recon. Scout dog might fit better since the image is indeed a puppy.

Re: Rename Scout to Scout Dog?

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 7:35 am
by DreJaDe
Badnorth wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:49 am Perhaps renaming Scout to Scout dog? @Endru1241?
It might be a little confusing for some as Scout usually implies to a unit doing recon. Scout dog might fit better since the image is indeed a puppy.
I'm heavily leaning on the simplistic side which is already it's old name.

I suggest just naming it "Dog" is enough.

Re: Rename Scout to Scout Dog?

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 8:06 am
by tamtam12345
I think scout is better than dog...
"SCOUT" name self explained usage of dog...

Re: Rename Scout to Scout Dog?

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 8:07 am
by Badnorth
Hm, i still think it should be named Scout Dog. It's basically mashing both the Scout name and the Dog.

Re: Rename Scout to Scout Dog?

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:51 pm
by MaharajaInfernape
Badnorth wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 8:07 am Hm, i still think it should be named Scout Dog. It's basically mashing both the Scout name and the Dog.
I agree with you. 👍🏼

Re: Rename Scout to Scout Dog?

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:13 am
by Badnorth
Let's just wait for Endru's opinion..

Re: Rename Scout to Scout Dog?

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:58 pm
by Endru1241
Honestly - scout is one of the units that bothered me from the very start.
Considering scout bird.

Because no matter how you look at it - it doesn't make much sense as a unit.
It's only used to represent some pack of trained dogs at best.
But it couldn't be used for scouting purposes - some human trainers/keepers is a must.
So the only viable explanation would be something similar to hunting party (but strictly military) - some mounted men bringing a bunch of searching dogs.
On upgrade they have more/better trained and more dangerous animals, so some fighting ability is added - OK.

But then scout bird doesn't fit similar explanation - how could any human travel completely unhindered by terrain (even if we consider it's not whole unit, but barely one/few men) ?

So really - if we'd choose to never leave scout bird concept/name then changing Scout -> Scout Dog is perfectly reasonable.
But it slightly grinds my nerves.

Re: Rename Scout to Scout Dog?

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:38 am
by Badnorth
Endru1241 wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:58 pm So really - if we'd choose to never leave scout bird concept/name then changing Scout -> Scout Dog is perfectly reasonable.
Mm, i don't really know what to say about the others. But you're right, Scout bird doesn't make any sense unlike Scout dogs. I guess we can leave the concept and name. But i have no reasons to say that.

Name Change: I guess i can set this to accepted.

Re: Rename Scout to Scout Dog? ACCEPTED

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2021 5:00 pm
by Endru1241
I spent some time and made something.

Scout would have proper scout image.
Just like flying scout (but it should probably be changed to require flying tech now).

Previous images are being made into map editor units:
dog, war dog, bird
Existing units (in started games, placed in maps) will be changed to those to preserve look.
They will have unchanged stats, but only added some necessary specs for AI.

Meanwhile my images will make units, that are producable and will have similar stats.

That is my solution.

BTW. I'll also add some skins for dog versions of scouts as map editor animals.