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Varangian Redesign
Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2021 12:05 pm
by Badnorth
Varangian Redesign. What do you think @Endru1241?
Re: Varangian Redesign
Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:05 pm
by Badnorth
@godOfKings I need you here. What do you think?
Re: Varangian Redesign
Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:13 pm
by godOfKings
Its good, but although it doesnt look the best overall, there r also no obvious flaws i could help it, so improving this image is beyond my skills

Re: Varangian Redesign
Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:16 pm
by Badnorth
That is unfortunate. But kinda complimenting me at the same time, so i feel slightly better about it
That "Doesn't look the best" is bothering me a little though.
Re: Varangian Redesign
Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:25 pm
by godOfKings
Art is relative and no drawing can ever reach the realm of perfection, at best it can approach it
and my creativity is not enough to make this drawing better
Re: Varangian Redesign
Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:31 pm
by Badnorth
I think the Axe-handle was long so i shortened it.
Re: Varangian Redesign
Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:36 pm
by Badnorth
godOfKings wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:25 pm
Art is relative and no drawing can ever reach the realm of perfection, at best it can approach it
That's what a Saint would say. This is really true.
Re: Varangian Redesign
Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:20 pm
by Endru1241
It's great image, but 2 problems though.
It's a freaking giant.
Seriously - unit is visibly much higher and bigger than any other in game.
2nd thing - you improved armor even more, while it's only medium infantry in game.
It's not supposed to be elite byzantine Varangian Guard - it only represents some mercenary nordic people ( historically fighting mainly in the eastern and south-east parts of Europe).
It's too good for this unit.
Re: Varangian Redesign
Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2021 4:29 pm
by Badnorth
Endru1241 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:20 pm
It's great image, but 2 problems though.
It's a freaking giant.
Seriously - unit is visibly much higher and bigger than any other in game.
2nd thing - you improved armor even more, while it's only medium infantry in game.
It's not supposed to be elite byzantine Varangian Guard - it only represents some mercenary nordic people ( historically fighting mainly in the eastern and south-east parts of Europe).
It's too good for this unit.
This height thing is really pushing me off the cliff.
Hmm... Any possiblity for it to become the Varangian Guard unit? I can reduce the height by 2 pixels if it can.
Still, it's a shame. I wanted my Favorite mercenary to have a cool image.
Re: Varangian Redesign
Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:39 pm
by Badnorth
@Endru1241 Here's the Varangian image if you're ever going to need it.
I reduced height by 4 pixels, it should be exactly 30px in height.
Honestly, i think it looks dumb now

I don't like it being a dwarf.
Re: Varangian Redesign
Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:47 pm
by Badnorth
Oh, wait. My counting, -1 more pixel.
Re: Varangian Redesign
Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 4:04 pm
by godOfKings
Reduce canvas to 32 px then i think it will not look so small
Re: Varangian Redesign
Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 4:29 pm
by Badnorth
Sure, i'll make the canvas 32px later.
Re: Varangian Redesign
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:58 am
by Badnorth
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Re: Varangian Redesign
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:33 am
by Badnorth
I'll make a less armored Varangian later. I still want to redesign the Varangian unit in-game.
Re: Varangian Redesign
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:29 am
by Badnorth
Changed Varangian.
I remade the whole stuff so it would differ in appearance if the previous posted Varangian does become the image for the Byzantine Varangian Guard.
@Endru1241
Re: Varangian Redesign
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:55 am
by Badnorth
Slight changes to the body.
Re: Varangian Redesign
Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:09 pm
by Endru1241
It doesn't really look like a dwarf.
On the other hand - it still seems quite big (but I realise pixel-wise it's OK now).
If you think it's looking too dwarfy - maybe removing 1 pixel from torse and adding it to the legs would be good to remove such visual effect.
Let me ask, just to be sure - last image is for varangian redesign, while the one discussed before you accept as more elite varangian guard or similar usage, right?
Re: Varangian Redesign
Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 3:06 am
by Badnorth
Endru1241 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:09 pm
It doesn't really look like a dwarf.
On the other hand - it still seems quite big (but I realise pixel-wise it's OK now).
If you think it's looking too dwarfy - maybe removing 1 pixel from torse and adding it to the legs would be good to remove such visual effect.
Let me ask, just to be sure - last image is for varangian redesign, while the one discussed before you accept as more elite varangian guard or similar usage, right?
Yeah, i forgot to say. About the previous image i wanted to be the Elite Varangian Guard. I'll just rework it
Yes, last image is for varangian redesign, but the previous one that was discussed will be discarded, or turned to a skin. If elite varangian guard does need an image, i'll try to make one for him. Armored and stuff. It'd look cool i guess.
I edited the image of Varangian again, i saw some mistakes and weird stuff on the body when i came here.