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7,5-cm-leichtes Infanteriegeschütz 18

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2022 11:24 am
by Jasondunkel
it was a light infantry gun which was easy to transport

If someone could make an iamge it would be nice if there is some data on the gun.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.5_cm_le ... C3%BCtz_18

Re: 7,5-cm-leichtes Infanteriegeschütz 18

Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 3:06 pm
by SS-Jericho
I tried making an image of it, from the app drejade suggested.

So this is a Mountain gun update

7.5 cm Le. GebIG. 18 (Ig-18)

Type: artillery field gun, mountain gun
Cost 3
Hp 9/9
Power 8
Range 2
Armor 1
Expl. Arm 1
Speed: 2 (1 on mountains/can enter mountain)
Action: 1

Bonus damage:
400% +32 vs infantry
180% + 14 vs vehicle
250% + 20 vs buildings

Same Wiki source

Units like this should be able to move through mountain since they are light and are even used by airborne divisions. It has a good damage vs infantry since they can be fired indirectly and directly rapidly, which would also make them vulnerable thus low hp.

Possible mountain guns for other nation
Soviet: m1938 76mm mountain gun

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/76_mm_m ... _gun_M1938

US: M116 howitzer
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M116_howitzer

UK: QF 3.7 inch mountain howitzer
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/QF_3.7- ... n_howitzer

IJ: type 94 75 mm mountain gun
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_94 ... untain_gun

Italy: Cannone da 65/17 modello 13
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannone ... modello_13

France: ???

1. Should it have miss speed?
2. Thoughts on stats suggestion and image (lol)?

Re: 7,5-cm-leichtes Infanteriegeschütz 18

Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 5:11 pm
by Puppeteer12
For a beginner, it's pretty good. My only problem is that in aoww artillery images only consist of only artillery and without the crew, that's more of aor art style.

Re: 7,5-cm-leichtes Infanteriegeschütz 18

Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 9:40 pm
by Jasondunkel
SS-Jericho wrote: Fri May 06, 2022 3:06 pm I tried making an image of it, from the app drejade suggested.

So this is a Mountain gun update

7.5 cm Le. GebIG. 18 (Ig-18)

Type: artillery field gun, mountain gun
Cost 3
Hp 9/9
Power 8
Range 2
Armor 1
Expl. Arm 1
Speed: 2 (1 on mountains/can enter mountain)
Action: 1

Bonus damage:
400% +32 vs infantry
180% + 14 vs vehicle
250% + 20 vs buildings

Same Wiki source

Units like this should be able to move through mountain since they are light and are even used by airborne divisions. It has a good damage vs infantry since they can be fired indirectly and directly rapidly, which would also make them vulnerable thus low hp.

Possible mountain guns for other nation
Soviet: m1938 76mm mountain gun

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/76_mm_m ... _gun_M1938

US: M116 howitzer
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M116_howitzer

UK: QF 3.7 inch mountain howitzer
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/QF_3.7- ... n_howitzer

IJ: type 94 75 mm mountain gun
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_94 ... untain_gun

Italy: Cannone da 65/17 modello 13
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannone ... modello_13

France: ???

1. Should it have miss speed?
2. Thoughts on stats suggestion and image (lol)?
I like the image. stratego has the last word.
can you imagine all the other guns separately for the countries.
and if you like you can make the images for the other countries

and yes, this type of cannon should then also be able to be moved through mountains.

the xls we have will then say everything there is to power ect

Re: 7,5-cm-leichtes Infanteriegeschütz 18

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 3:19 am
by SS-Jericho
Thanks. Im still having a hard time choosing the right colors and their mixture or something.

I could make the image for the other artillery, but im not sure if they are the right unit in terms of the best mountain/support gun used by their country.

Re: 7,5-cm-leichtes Infanteriegeschütz 18

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 6:22 am
by Stratego (dev)
nice!
can you show us without operators? only the gun?

Re: 7,5-cm-leichtes Infanteriegeschütz 18

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 8:28 am
by SS-Jericho
Here is the ig18 without artillery crews.

Re: 7,5-cm-leichtes Infanteriegeschütz 18

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 11:42 am
by Stratego (dev)
nice!

i am not sure it is bigger than it should be compared to current ones (i feel it should be smaller), maybe we need to put the other images beside it to know.

Re: 7,5-cm-leichtes Infanteriegeschütz 18

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 11:53 am
by SS-Jericho
Did this made a difference? I tried shrinking it. Though it kinda affected its looks a little bit.

Re: 7,5-cm-leichtes Infanteriegeschütz 18

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 11:57 am
by Stratego (dev)
yes, in pixel art (in such little density) you must know: you must not shrink/scale the image ever
that will totally ruin the image.

you can only resize it manually :(

my suggestion is putting another artillery beside it so you see how big this should be, maybe it was good already i was just wondering if maybe a little too big.

Re: 7,5-cm-leichtes Infanteriegeschütz 18

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 12:41 pm
by SS-Jericho
Alright, too bad. Although i can make another image if it's really necessary.

Re: 7,5-cm-leichtes Infanteriegeschütz 18

Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 6:14 am
by Stratego (dev)
i dont know the size, is the size ok now? (i have not compared to other units sizes)

if it is in final size it needs only polishing to be ready - eg. fixing the black border if the resize option ruined it.

Re: 7,5-cm-leichtes Infanteriegeschütz 18

Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 7:46 am
by SS-Jericho
There, I hope its solved now : ))

Re: 7,5-cm-leichtes Infanteriegeschütz 18

Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 8:01 am
by DreJaDe
Hopefully this is 64x64

It looks ok already though.

Re: 7,5-cm-leichtes Infanteriegeschütz 18

Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 3:14 pm
by SS-Jericho
It should be 64x64??? I have not read that. How do others able to detail their unit while making it so small in the size of 64x64 canvas.

Re: 7,5-cm-leichtes Infanteriegeschütz 18

Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 3:55 pm
by Stratego (dev)
64x64:

:)

i tried to suggest to put existing units beside yours so you will see all things what is usually there,
here are a few images, use these as "directional signs" in all questions.

Also here is a written know-how list about making images, if you happen to yet see it:
viewtopic.php?f=216&t=592

Re: 7,5-cm-leichtes Infanteriegeschütz 18

Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 4:02 pm
by Puppeteer12
SS-Jericho wrote: Wed May 11, 2022 3:14 pm It should be 64x64??? I have not read that. How do others able to detail their unit while making it so small in the size of 64x64 canvas.
Simple shading can help a lot when it comes to detail, just imagine where the light source is coming from and try your best on what you think the shadows would look like

Re: 7,5-cm-leichtes Infanteriegeschütz 18

Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 4:27 pm
by SS-Jericho
Thank you po. These are really helpful. The ig-18 will really need a complete remake for right proportion.

But can you also check the other mountain guns I made for other countries (all except france). I might just edit them a little bit since they are not that big compared to this IG-18.

Re: 7,5-cm-leichtes Infanteriegeschütz 18

Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 4:31 pm
by Puppeteer12
Hold on, are you Filipino.

Re: 7,5-cm-leichtes Infanteriegeschütz 18

Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 5:02 pm
by SS-Jericho
Yes I am. Hehe

Re: 7,5-cm-leichtes Infanteriegeschütz 18

Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 5:09 pm
by Puppeteer12
Same, surprisedly there's a lot of Filipino's in the ao community, there are at least 3-4 Filipinos I know in the main discord server.

Re: 7,5-cm-leichtes Infanteriegeschütz 18

Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 5:28 pm
by SS-Jericho
Puppeteer12 wrote: Wed May 11, 2022 5:09 pm Same, surprisedly there's a lot of Filipino's in the ao community, there are at least 3-4 Filipinos I know in the main discord server.
Thats cool, is the discord open for players/non-admin? I have not find it in the forum.

Re: 7,5-cm-leichtes Infanteriegeschütz 18

Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 5:45 pm
by Puppeteer12
Can't remember, just use the search feature and type discord in

Re: 7,5-cm-leichtes Infanteriegeschütz 18

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 3:47 pm
by SS-Jericho
Discord link has expired.
Below is all the images with the following changes:
Resize of canvas to 64x64
Resize of units and polishing
All white pixels are transparent (including inside and shadows)
Ammo box/team color copied from image provided
they are really smaller than other units

Note that the italian gun is not the one i suggested above*

Re: 7,5-cm-leichtes Infanteriegeschütz 18

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 4:18 pm
by Stratego (dev)
good!

altough i think resize ruined the images a little.

also arent they too small? i dont know the guns but they seem smaller than the ones i attached (maybe irl they are smaller - that case no problem!)

Re: 7,5-cm-leichtes Infanteriegeschütz 18

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 4:39 pm
by SS-Jericho
It did not ruined the image, i resized it manually pixel by pixel. Its just small lol and they are.

Here is a comparison scale to crews

Edit-did image not sent properly

Re: 7,5-cm-leichtes Infanteriegeschütz 18

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 5:54 pm
by Stratego (dev)
It did not ruined the image, i resized it manually pixel by pixel. Its just small lol and they are.
oh sorry, i saw on "artillery_m116_mountain" some similar pixels that a scale would do.
my bad.
Here is a comparison scale to crews
oh no! not to the crews - but to the other artillery in game already!
(infantry sizes are differing those are only compared to other infantries not to equipemts! so only compare to images i sent you above about other artilleries)

Re: 7,5-cm-leichtes Infanteriegeschütz 18

Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 2:44 am
by SS-Jericho
Did a said crews i meant artillery :D . you can see that the ig-18 is a lot smaller than the lefh18 (artillery already in game). Most crews have to crouch to use it while for lefh18 crews have to stand. I cant find a side by side comparison of it, but here is some info according to wiki: ( i cant find height and width data for ig-18 so I supplemented with the type94howitzer)

1. Lefh18 (already in game):
Height: 1.880 m (6 ft 2.0 in)
Width: 1.977 m (6 ft 5.8 in)
Length: 6.100 m (20 ft .2 in)
Mass: Travel: 3,490 kg (7,690 lb) / Combat: 1,985 kg (4,376 lb)

2. IG:18 (suggestion)
Length: 2.5meters (8 ft 2 inch)
Mass: Travel: 1,560 kg (3,439 lb)/Combat: 400 kg (882 lb)

3. Type 94 howitzer (suggestion)
Height: 2 ft 11 in (0.89 m)

Width: 1.023 m (3 ft 4 in) Track 1.354 m (4 ft 5 in) Maximum

Length: 3.81 m (12 ft 6 in) Firing (trails open)
3.89 m (12 ft 9 in) (trails closed)

Mass: 3.96 m (13 ft 0 in) Traveling
544 kg (1,199 lb) Firing
495 kg (1,091 lb) Traveling

Re: 7,5-cm-leichtes Infanteriegeschütz 18

Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 4:59 am
by Stratego (dev)
awesome! if you compared to good units than surely ok!