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For how strong they've become after the last patch, I really think they should be pushed to only be available later in the game, because a wagon with 1 or 2 early on can just destroy an entire base worth of factories and towers by themselves with Explode Self.

They are the most legit anti castle unit currently, yet one need at least 3 of them - equals 9 turn for ballistics and 3 more turn just for a treb.

But it's true such lethal unit must come in later game - at least after ballistics.

If they were to go after gunpowder, perhaps a little compensation should be considered.

If they are to be roadblocked behind gunpowder I feel like they need a heavy buff. Maybe make their bombs better? 2 turns instead of 3? More armor? Like Aral said they need compensation for such a huge block

maybe adding a tech called early explosives to enable pregunpowder explosives? including petardier and maybe rocket or naphtha based units?

Allowed myself to change topic name.

Changed in the assets:
Added new tech Better Explosives, that increases ability power of [Explosive Ability] units by +5.
Petardier ability power 18->10.
Bonus from explosion vs megas +1000%->+1200%. Along with new tech total damage is similar vs megas, ~20% weaker vs other units.
Bonuses from petard: vs structures and siege +120%->+130%, vs fortifications +450%->+560%, vs megas +1400%->+1700%. Along with new tech total damage is similar vs megas and fortifications, ~15% weaker vs other structures, ~20% weaker vs other units.

Along with it Demolition ship final damage of self explode is stronger by ~20%.

Nice. That solves almost all but one of the problems I see with them: forts. They currently almost 2-shot a fully upgraded fort, wich I find too much for a cost of 4+6, so maybe their bonuses vs megas and fortifications could be increased a bit again and overall primary target damage slightly brought back, but overall area damage decreased?

But their damage against forts went down.
From 339 to 280.
To lower it enough to need 4 sacrifices to destroy fort (without increasing bonus vs fortifications) it would have to go from *70% per tile to *53%.