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godOfKings wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:19 am Doesnt seem like much of a bug to me cuz in the past i used to drag the archer from the wagon into the tc, atk with the archer, then drag the archer in the tc back into the wagon, now it is more direct without the intermediate steps, the only exception is the guard tower.... And the fact 3 wagons in a tc can allow 9 archers to atk from that tc.... ok this is a serious bug

b2198 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:07 am I think this one was created when the bugfix to prevent units inside mantlets inside wagons to attack was applied.

test cases:


test results ("O" means passed, "X" means failed):
O, archer can't fire inside wagon
O, archer can't fire inside mantlet inside wagon
O, archer can't fire inside ger tergen cart
O, archer can't fire inside ram
O, archer can fire inside siege tower

X, archer can fire inside wagon inside TC
X, archer can fire inside mantlet inside wagon TC
X, archer can fire inside ger tergen cart inside TC
X, archer can fire inside ram inside TC

O, archer can't fire inside barcha longa
X, archer can fire inside barcha longa inside TC

O, archer can't fire inside wagon "inside" bridge
O, archer can't fire inside mantlet inside wagon "inside" bridge
O, ...ger tergen cart can't even step on bridge lol
O, archer can't fire inside ram "inside" bridge
O, archer can fire inside siege tower "inside" bridge

O, archer can't fire inside transport ship
O, archer can't fire inside wagon inside transport ship
O, archer can't fire inside mantlet inside wagon inside transport ship
O, archer can't fire inside ram inside transport ship
O, archer can fire inside war caravel

X, archer can fire inside transport ship inside TC
X, archer can fire inside wagon inside transport ship inside TC
X, archer can fire inside mantlet inside wagon inside transport ship inside TC
X, archer can fire inside ram inside transport ship inside TC
O? archer can fire inside war galleon inside TC, probably fine, since both allow carried units to attack?

O, archer can't fire inside wagon inside nordic hall
O, archer can't fire inside mantlet inside wagon inside nordic hall
O, archer can't fire inside ger tergen cart inside nordic hall
O, archer can't fire inside ram inside nordic hall

O, archer can't fire inside transport ship inside nordic hall
O, archer can't fire inside wagon inside transport ship inside nordic hall
O, archer can't fire inside mantlet inside wagon inside transport ship inside nordic hall
O, archer can't fire inside ram inside transport ship inside nordic hall
O, archer can't fire inside barcha longa inside nordic hall
O, archer can't fire inside war caravel inside nordic hall

X, archer can fire inside wagon inside guard tower
X, archer can fire inside mantlet inside wagon inside guard tower
X, archer can fire inside ger tergen cart inside guard tower
X, archer can fire inside ram inside guard tower

Conclusion: the check was probably changed from "unit can attack if immediate garrison allows" to "unit can attack if first garrison in stack allows", resulting in this new bug.

Possible solution: change the check to "unit can attack if all garrisons in stack allow"

Endru1241 wrote: ↑Wed May 25, 2022 7:49 pm Meanwhile I think free movement from and to carriers is true case of inbalance here.