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Banner bearer - IMPLEMENTED
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 1:14 pm
by ejm29
A unit holding a banner with the players team colour on it, all allied units within 2 tiles of him get +1 attack.
I made some quick stats, but nothing solid

Attack 2
Armor 1
Pierce armor 3
Speed 2
Cost 8
Resistance to conversion, 100%
Sight 3
Has bonus against; 50% against light cavalry
Units that have bonus against him; 2) 10% all infantry
Built in tc, barracks, castle?
Any thoughts?
Re: Banner bearer
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 1:17 pm
by balint
I like it!
I make an image for it.
Re: Banner bearer
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 1:18 pm
by ejm29
Ok, cool!

Re: Banner bearer
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 3:06 pm
by balint
here you are. what do you think?
Re: Banner bearer
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 3:19 pm
by ejm29
Look great

Re: Banner bearer
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 3:25 pm
by balint
thanks

Re: Banner bearer
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 3:28 pm
by patroid
Should i polish (i mean the shield)?
But its cool.
Re: Banner bearer
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 3:28 pm
by max-damage
Very cool, brah!! The speed should be higher, though...it isn't weighed down with weapons...
Re: Banner bearer
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 3:36 pm
by ejm29
But the banner and shield would be a lot heavy than a bow or sword?.

Re: Banner bearer
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 3:49 pm
by balint
he should gain bonus against cavalry.
Re: Banner bearer
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 4:05 pm
by max-damage
I don't know about you, but I've never seen a wooden flagstaff that weighed 13 kilos (average weight for a medieval broadsword...)
I don't mean extreme speed, but 3 isn't unreasonable...
And yes, he needs a bonus against some unit type...
Re: Banner bearer
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 4:37 pm
by patroid
Hi
When i think of a banner i think of something like that:
Re: Banner bearer
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 5:13 pm
by ejm29
@Patroid, nice! The banner is a lot more visible that way.
@max, I suppose it depends on size, but in general I think your probaly right

Re: Banner bearer
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 5:41 pm
by balint
That is much better

Re: Banner bearer
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 6:57 pm
by COOLguy
Yes much better!
The banner can go above 32p.
and his arm and leg appear a bit flat.
Re: Banner bearer
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 7:03 pm
by Stratego (dev)
image: i suggest start from an existing nice unit from the great unit template i posted in introduction.
ability: i think he is not a war guy, he can not even fight well so no bonus needed for him, the +1 to all units around is enough to build him.
Re: Banner bearer
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 7:20 pm
by Pepe
Life??
8 turns is too too much. Just thinking aloud, I think I would not use it. It's easier to build a blacksmith and then technologies to give +1.
For 8 turns the banner bearer should have long life and also more range for the +1 attack.
These are my thoughts. Would you use it with the current stats?
Re: Banner bearer
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 7:22 pm
by COOLguy
Well, we don't know his hp yet, but you're right, 8 turns may be a bit overkill. (However, remember that these are in addition to those techs and more than one can be used.)
Re: Banner bearer
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 7:25 pm
by Stratego (dev)
more than one +1 giving is too op i think.
i think 1-2 bearer in an army is enough, and they should give +1 only once even they have overlapping area (like the orc leader in AOF)
Re: Banner bearer
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 7:26 pm
by COOLguy
Ok then maybe 8 is too expensive - maybe 6-7? Depends on his hp...
Re: Banner bearer
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 9:34 pm
by ejm29
On second thoughts, 6 would be good!

Re: Banner bearer
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 11:06 pm
by max-damage
6 turns sounds reasonable, but the bonus has a very limited range, so why limit it to 1 or 2 turns? Also, Daniel, i meant a defense bonus against some unit type--as you said, he's a non-combative unit...
Re: Banner bearer
Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 5:45 pm
by COOLguy
How is this?
Re: Banner bearer
Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 5:53 pm
by Pepe
Cool!!!
Isn't it a bit similar to the templar?
Re: Banner bearer
Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 6:12 pm
by COOLguy
A bit based off of him. Is that bad?
Re: Banner bearer
Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 7:13 pm
by Stratego (dev)
cool!
Re: Banner bearer
Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 8:42 pm
by balint
really nice
Re: Banner bearer
Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 8:57 pm
by ollie444
Why has he got a shield?
But I really like that image1
Re: Banner bearer
Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:01 pm
by ejm29
cool image!

Maybe a sword instead of the shield?
Re: Banner bearer
Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:43 pm
by ollie444
What about a dagger?