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Veteran stacks with helmsmasher and uruk berserker
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:22 pm
by Lordofshampoo
I understand that from a coding point, when units get upgraded, they must transform into a fresh new unit, but then they lose all veteran stacks they gathered before. For this reason, helmsmasher and uruk berserker aren't worth buying before all orc/warrior upgrades. Since helmsmasher is weak pick late game because he could get killed very easily, I wonder if you could somehow make it so that the stacks stays with unit upgrade, it would allow players to start stacking early. I guess you already knew of this, and maybe it's too hard to implement, but I figured it's worth a try.
Thanks
Re: Veteran stacks with helmsmasher and uruk berserker
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 5:38 am
by makazuwr32
Lordofshampoo wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:22 pm
I understand that from a coding point, when units get upgraded, they must transform into a fresh new unit, but then they lose all veteran stacks they gathered before. For this reason, helmsmasher and uruk berserker aren't worth buying before all orc/warrior upgrades. Since helmsmasher is weak pick late game because he could get killed very easily, I wonder if you could somehow make it so that the stacks stays with unit upgrade, it would allow players to start stacking early. I guess you already knew of this, and maybe it's too hard to implement, but I figured it's worth a try.
Thanks
Requires engine changes from stratego.
I have idea how to change this but giving hundreds and hundreds of separate effects to unit via complete massacre — by giving on kill effects for bonus max hp, bonus attack and so on with 999 turns length — will not improve experience.
Also another problem with this method is that in this case all accumulated experience can be just dispelled.
Re: Veteran stacks with helmsmasher and uruk berserker
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 10:19 am
by Lordofshampoo
I guess we'll wait for Stratego answer then. My intent is simply to get orc veteran as worth having than lizard and mork veterans, I have yet to see a veteran unit solo armies but poison and magic still counter their Armor stacks so there's that
Re: Veteran stacks with helmsmasher and uruk berserker
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 11:21 am
by Stratego (dev)
that is not so good atm.
we can not "reproduce" the veteranity...
we can remove level up of that unit - so that is a standalone.
or we can give him the veteran effect only on last level?
it is not easy to code, actually i have no idea how that would be good...
Re: Veteran stacks with helmsmasher and uruk berserker
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:36 pm
by makazuwr32
Stratego (dev) wrote: ↑Tue Jan 24, 2023 11:21 am
that is not so good atm.
we can not "reproduce" the veteranity...
we can remove level up of that unit - so that is a standalone.
or we can give him the veteran effect only on last level?
it is not easy to code, actually i have no idea how that would be good...
I will think about this.
But for sure apart from veteraning both those units need another unique feature. Uruk berserker has more actions and jump which is enough.
