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Improvement for the horse archer - IMPLEMENTED

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 1:03 am
by Alexander82
I was thinking about an improvement for the horse archer
We might stay in line with other mounted units (making it an heavy horse archer) or with the common archer (making it a horse crossbowman), Before starting to draw something i'd like to ask what you think about it

Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:20 am
by DoomCarrot
Possibly a marksman rider? maybe just a horse archer, but with one or two more attack, and one more range or so?

I just can't picture a horse archer with armor, mongols liked skinny horses :)

Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 9:41 am
by Alexander82
I think that a mongol archer might be a different unit, like the hussar

Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:17 am
by Alexander82
This one is a first idea if we go in the direction of the crossbowman

Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 5:07 pm
by DoomCarrot
I like the look!

Although is it possible to load a ceossbow without standing?

Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 6:44 pm
by Alexander82
yes, some crossbow had devices with a winch that allowed this

Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:23 pm
by DoomCarrot
Ahh just looked it up I see.

And that looks good, maybe this upgrade would seriously boost the horse archers attack and maybe even add an extra range? I imagine it is much easier to shoot farther with a gun like device from horseback than a short bow

Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 11:48 pm
by Alexander82
I'd raise its range by 1 as for archer to crossbowman, other than this i'll leave the rest to some more expert gamer

Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 1:11 am
by Alexander82
i made it more armored, i think i might make its colo lighter to make it a different from the heavy lancer knight (i reduced the barding's lengt though)

Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 11:58 am
by Alexander82
Any advices for the look?

Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:45 pm
by DoomCarrot
Hm, I really like how its coming along!

Since he is armored, maybe he could get +2 armor or so from this upgrade? that would make this a pretty decent upgrade.

Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:47 pm
by Alexander82
I made its colors lighter

Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 5:06 pm
by DoomCarrot
This is REALLY coming along, I made some stats for him:

Cost: 4
HP: 28
Attack : 6
Range : 6
Armor : 2
Pierce Armor : 2
Speed : 5
Sight : 7

Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 7:23 pm
by Stratego (dev)
a heavier unit can not be faster.

Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:06 pm
by DoomCarrot
..... Huh? :geek:

5 speed is the horse archers original speed, am I right, or am I totally doping out right now?

EDIT: Yeah his speed is 5? :?: :?: :?:

Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:26 pm
by Stratego (dev)
yes, and should remain 5 - a heavy archer with armors can not go up to speed 6. But is see that it is ok now:
speed: 5
(or was this 5 always? - that case i misread something - sorry)

Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:27 pm
by DoomCarrot
I said speed 5 though lol :lol:

Ahhh ok, our confusion is cleared up I see

Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:28 pm
by Stratego (dev)
ok :)

Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:38 pm
by Alexander82
So, we should decide: shall we make it heavier with a bow, lighter with a crossbow or heavier and with a crossbow(as it is right now)?

This version presents a non-armored horse

Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 11:53 pm
by DoomCarrot
I like the armored, crossbow wielding mounted monster idea :)

I just like the concept of basically a ranged knight.

Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 8:37 am
by Ness
Stats

Hp 30, power 6, range 6, speed 5

I think at horse archer improvement should be light not heavy

Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:38 am
by Alexander82
Added a chainmail coif

Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 5:46 pm
by Alexander82
added reins

Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:46 pm
by TheBluePhoenix
Loved the image. Nice work going 8-)

Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2015 12:34 pm
by Alexander82
Daniel what do you think?

Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 3:19 am
by Stratego (dev)
i think using a crossbow on a horse is weird.
how can anyone shoot more than one shot with that, on a horse you can not pull the string back - i think.

(i searched an found no such image on the net showing the medieval era.)

how about changing it back to normal bow?

Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:26 am
by Alexander82
I know that a light crossbow can ne charged by hand, and an heavy one might require a pulley. Anyway i can make pne eith bow, as the original unit

Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 5:09 pm
by Alexander82
what about that?

Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 5:33 pm
by COOLguy
I like number 2.

Re: Improvement for the horse archer

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 6:05 pm
by Stratego (dev)
me too, but the image needs some more polish - seems cartoon like or something.