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Different unit for the castle: Gryphon Rider & Dragon Knight — IMPLEMENTED
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 12:58 am
by Alexander82
Why don't we make something more fantasy for the human castle?
I would make dragon knights and gryphon knights
Both should be mounted flying units
Dragon knights should be heavy attackers while Gryphon knights should be faster and stronger against mounted units
What you think about it?
Re: Different unit for the castle
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:24 pm
by The Pendulum
I like the dragon knight idea, but I got over the Griffin rider's after Warcraft.
Re: Different unit for the castle
Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 8:50 am
by Alexander82
Does anyone have some ideas? Sometimes it seems really pointless to build castles with humans when you can't really produce something useful for your army
Re: Different unit for the castle
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 8:26 am
by Alexander82
I'm working on a image for the dragon rider
Re: Different unit for the castle
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 9:17 am
by Alexander82
added weapon and shield
Re: Different unit for the castle
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 2:09 pm
by The Pendulum
Alexander82 wrote:added weapon and shield
Looks more like a bat than anything else. You may want to try increasing the height of the image and turn the dragon sideways to give a better view of the Knight.
Re: Different unit for the castle
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 2:38 pm
by Alexander82
I used a dragon from the tileset to try a frontal perspective, but i'll try a more classic one with a side perspective.
Re: Different unit for the castle
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 2:53 pm
by The Pendulum
I didn't mean any offense. I looked closer; the real big issue here i think is that the dragon is tiny compared to it's rider. I think drawing a much larger dragon to emphasize the smaller knight would be beneficial.
Re: Different unit for the castle
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 4:00 pm
by Alexander82
Yes, it's meant to be a drake (young dragon)
Re: Different unit for the castle
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 4:52 pm
by Alexander82
Here is a Gryphon Rider
Re: Different unit for the castle
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 4:54 pm
by Alexander82
Team colored Shield
Re: Different unit for the castle
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 6:22 pm
by The Pendulum
Alexander82 wrote:Team colored Shield
Very cool! I love that you used the heavy lancer as your base rider!
Re: Different unit for the castle
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 7:48 pm
by Alexander82
Yep, it was also my first unit design, so i'm pretty proud of it ^^
Re: Different unit for the castle
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 8:02 pm
by The Pendulum
Alexander82 wrote:Yep, it was also my first unit design, so i'm pretty proud of it ^^
Very well done i think.
Perhaps you could copy/paste the entire image half way up the overlap, and then add a shadow underneath to give it the appearance of flying?
Re: Different unit for the castle
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 8:06 pm
by Alexander82
I remember Daniel saying to avoid increasing height past 50. Your idea would be good bit i think it would appear like being on the upper tile
Re: Different unit for the castle
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 8:18 pm
by The Pendulum
Alexander82 wrote:I remember Daniel saying to avoid increasing height past 50. Your idea would be good bit i think it would appear like being on the upper tile
Maybe shorten and thin out the lance, to make it appear like a spear, and then raise the image about 6 pixels or so, and then add a shadow? That wouldnt be too tall, would it?
Re: Different unit for the castle
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 8:35 pm
by Alexander82
The lance is pretty thin, it might be ok to raise the image at 56 height. Let's see ehat daniel says
Re: Different unit for the castle
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 11:54 pm
by Alexander82
another try for the drake knight (it need some adjustment but it's to see if i'm on the right path)
Re: Different unit for the castle
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 12:31 am
by ejm29
Looks cool!
Re: Different unit for the castle
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 9:51 am
by Alexander82
Thanks!
I adjusted the color and changed his head
Re: Different unit for the castle
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 10:53 am
by Alexander82
I've in my mind one skill for each
For the Drake Knight: Fire Breath you choose a square in a range of 4 around the knight. You fire damage and burning effect in a radius of 2 around that square
For the Gryphon Knight: Diving Charge. You can use this skill if you have not moved in that turn. You choose a square (in your movement range) that is the start of your charge, you choose then a second square (free from other units) that is in line with the first one in a radius equal to your movement range from the first one. You end your movement in that square after hitting every unit between the two squares, you have bonus against mounts. You don't receive counterattacks by usin this maneuver. For the next turn you are not considered a flying unit for the purpose of damage received (because you have landed)
Re: Different unit for the castle
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 11:08 am
by Alexander82
Bigger shield added
Re: Different unit for the castle: Gryphon Rider & Dragon Kn
Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 3:45 pm
by Alexander82
Drake knight stats
Cost: 6
Hp: 50
Attack power: 20
Range 1
Armor: 5
Pierce armor: 4
Speed: 6
sight: 8 (he's flying after all)
Action/turn: 1
Spell resistance: 100%
Builder: castle
Bonus against big units like ents, trolls and such
abilities: Fire Breath you choose a square in a range of 4 around the knight. You fire damage and burning effect in a radius of 2 around that square, Flying unit
Gryphon rider stats
Cost: 6
Hp: 30
Attack power: 15
Range 1
Armor: 3
Pierce armor: 3
Speed: 8
sight: 10 (he flies better than a drake knight)
Action/turn: 1
Spell resistance: 100%
Builder: castle
Bonus against other flying units,bonus against mounted, bonus against dragons (we might add a tech called "dragonlance" for that)
abilities:Diving Charge. You can use this skill if you have not moved in that turn. You choose a square (in your movement range) that is the start of your charge, you choose then a second square (free from other units) that is in line with the first one in a radius equal to your movement range from the first one. You end your movement in that square after hitting every unit between the two squares, You don't receive counterattacks by usin this maneuver. For the next turn you are not considered a flying unit for the purpose of damage received (because you have landed): flying unit
Re: Different unit for the castle: Gryphon Rider & Dragon Kn
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 1:37 pm
by Alexander82
Totally changed the tail look
Re: Different unit for the castle: Gryphon Rider & Dragon Kn
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 1:43 pm
by Alexander82
I tried to make it looks like flying
Re: Different unit for the castle: Gryphon Rider & Dragon Kn
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 4:40 pm
by Alexander82
edited the back leg to be lion-like
Re: Different unit for the castle: Gryphon Rider & Dragon Kn
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 4:46 pm
by Alexander82
I thought that the tail was going to fold in an unnatural way in the previous one, so i made it pass over the legs
Re: Different unit for the castle: Gryphon Rider & Dragon Kn
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 6:50 am
by TheBluePhoenix
I dont think the drake rider should have a shield. It looks bad on the otherwise good image. Anyways he wouldnt be needing it. Maybe you can replace the lance with a equally long sword .Also the griffon rider looks very nice but i think it should have a sword too
Re: Different unit for the castle: Gryphon Rider & Dragon Kn
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 8:44 am
by Alexander82
Well... they would need a shield when fighting other flying knights xD
Btw i wanted one with the lance and one with a sword. The shield is also for cosmetic reasons (to give them team colors).
I might try coloring the dragon with team color to make it change based on the team tough
Re: Different unit for the castle: Gryphon Rider & Dragon Kn
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 8:48 am
by TheBluePhoenix
Ok but i strongly think both should have swords