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I was thinking a unit that was similar to a samurai (attack twice) but having a second move instead so they could run in, attack and retreat. I'm trying to come up with a historical reference for this (maybe native American?) so suggest away if you know of a particular historical people who employed this tactic.

I think stats would look something like this:
Cost: 3-4
HP: 15-20
Attack: 4-5
Range: 1
Armour: 0-1
Peirce Armour: 0-1
Speed: 6
Sight: 8

Basically a light cavalry that can hit and run. I think to prevent TC rushing, they should require an upgrade (maybe from light cavalry?) and/or only be allowed the 2nd move IF AND ONLY IF they attack.

This is a cool idea, but 6 move is way to OP. Maybe they have 3 move, an attack, and another 3 move.

Mongolians would do this with bows kind of, they called it Fade and Retreat I believe, to bait enemies into ambushes

DoomCarrot wrote:This is a cool idea, but 6 move is way to OP. Maybe they have 3 move, an attack, and another 3 move.

Yeah, I was afraid of that too; that's why I included the "only if it attacks" clause. 3 slightly diminishes the capability of what I had in mind as the attacked unit would easily catch them next turn but for balance sake probably the best way to do it.

Well, the idea is to pick off infantry/archer units and run I assume. Which, with 3 move to get away, is easy to get away from infantry, assuming you have successfully killed the one you attacked.

Hi,
To prevent that the function will be missused to come fastly forward
I imagine that the 2. Move has to be limited to the Area between
Start Position and enemy Position. As historical Legalisation we can say: A unit
Never ran behind the enemy Lines when they use attack and retreat attacks.
Means the Mongolia Archer moved BACK TO START POSITION or close to
If he attacked.

Patroid

This is actually how everything will move eventually. This was actually proposed before, but Daniel plans to implement everything like that (so the infantry moves ie 1+1+1)

Sweet!

Awesone. That would add a lot to the game

COOLguy wrote:This is actually how everything will move eventually. This was actually proposed before, but Daniel plans to implement everything like that (so the infantry moves ie 1+1+1)

So if this happens, a unit could attack at any stage during this movement?

Just going back to the original suggestion, maybe this could be an upgrade for the light cavalry that gives them the second action but otherwise stats remain the same.

Thoughts?

Yes. However, the reason we do not do a 2 moving unit is because the game can't yet, and when Daniel makes it so that it is possible, Daniel will make all units do it.

OK, cool. Thanks

But, I'm sure Daniel can make an exception for this unit and roll it out early only for it

I remember i proposed this as a ride-by-attack skill but the game engine didn't allow this

Why do you need a new unit type for this? I use the hussar for this all the time--just rush in, kill your least favourite unit, and use longbowmen to finish the job. I know this sounds a little bit anti-idea, but I'm just saying that a completely new unit is unnecessary.

Maybe

Good point, hussars are annoying enough as is. Imagine hussars that can escape back to their towers every turn.

We have hussars, hungarian hussars and light/elite cavalry. Set this as answered?

Kind of a pend too. Answered above. Game mechanic will be added later to all units.