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Blade Singer - IMPLEMENTED

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 1:05 pm
by Alexander82
In D&D Bladesingers are a sort of warmage generally exclusives for elves and half elves

I think we might start from that concept and use the image given by elvenprincess that Daniel wanted to use in AoF

Re: Blade Singer

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:48 pm
by Alexander82
Daniel, tell me if you like that effect

Re: Blade Singer

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 8:25 am
by TheBluePhoenix
Cool!

Re: Blade Singer

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 8:57 am
by Alexander82
Cost 5
HP 20
Attack 8
Range 1
Armor 0
Pierce Armor 0
Speed 4
Sight 6
Action 1
Spell possibility 20%
Spell Resistance 80%

Spells:
Double Attack (on self only)
Strenghten (on self only)
Burning Sword: add bonus against wooden units, attack inflict burning effect
Magic Arrow: Ranged Attack (range 5) If burning sword is active it add his special effect to the spell.

Re: Blade Singer

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 12:16 pm
by Alpha
Maybe change that to a smiting so it can take care of the undead faster considering that elves are the only race that uses wood units.

Re: Blade Singer

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 12:19 pm
by Alexander82
Ships and catapults are made of wood. My idea was an anti ship attack (magic arrow + burning effect)

Re: Blade Singer

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 12:24 pm
by Alexander82
Also undeads suffer against elves (they all have 80% spell resistance, so the undead control spells are useless against them)

Re: Blade Singer

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 12:26 pm
by Alpha
Oh lol... :oops:

Re: Blade Singer

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 12:34 pm
by Alexander82
Also elves player can fight each other too xD

Btw, what about:
Cost 5
HP 20
Attack 8
Range 1
Armor 0
Pierce Armor 0
Speed 4
Sight 6
Action 1
Spell possibility 20%
Spell Resistance 80%

Spells:
Smite Undeads: Melee attack. If the target is an undead it deals double damage, if it isn't an undead it deals no damage. It doesn't trigger a counterattack agains undeads (cooldown 3 turns)
Strenghten (on self only)
Burning Sword: add bonus against wooden units, attack inflict burning effect
Magic Arrow: Ranged Attack (range 5) If burning sword is active it add his special effect to the spell.

Re: Blade Singer

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 12:36 pm
by Alpha
The Seems a little too weak, maybe increase it by 2 attack?

Re: Blade Singer

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 12:59 pm
by Alexander82
I know it is compared to other races melee, but it is in line with elves units. Elves warrior cost 3 and has 8 attack but can't buff damage, has no special attck against undead, has no burning and has no ranged attack

The human warmage has 15 attack but costs 8

I think 8+strenghten is balanced for elves (that are a less melee race)

Re: Blade Singer

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 1:38 pm
by Alpha
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Re: Blade Singer

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 1:52 pm
by patroid
The anination is cool but looks like a rotating
Hakenkreuz.

Patroid

Re: Blade Singer

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 2:02 pm
by Alexander82
I might try to add more lines by making a bigger energy ball. The effect should have been a bit rasengan-like

Re: Blade Singer

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 2:14 pm
by Alexander82
What about that one?

Re: Blade Singer

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 2:50 pm
by Alpha
That's looks really good!

Re: Blade Singer

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 3:24 pm
by Stratego (dev)
yes, cool!

Bladesinger

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 2:11 pm
by Sunrise Samurai
Alexander82 wrote:
Bladesinger
Image
Image
Stats:
Cost 5
HP 20
Attack 8
Range 1
Armor 0
Pierce Armor 0
Speed 4
Sight 6
Action 1
Spell possibility 20%
Spell Resistance 80%

Spells:
Double Attack (on self only)
Strenghten (on self only)
Burning Sword: add bonus against wooden units, attack inflict burning effect
Magic Arrow: Ranged Attack (range 5) If burning sword is active it add his special effect to the spell.
If I may suggest some editing to this unit. I would do away with double strike, and instead let the proposed tech "perfectly ​balanced blades" give it an extra action to make it 2 actions.

Re: Bladesinger

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 2:57 pm
by Alexander82
Please don't open new topics, write on the original one

Re: Bladesinger

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 3:00 pm
by Sunrise Samurai
I couldn't find the original. Is it archived?

Re: Bladesinger

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 3:01 pm
by Alexander82
No, it is probably just old. I'm merging both

Re: Blade Singer

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 3:04 pm
by Alexander82
I think that the latest one was the one with smite undeads. I must have forgotten to update.

Let's review the unit anyway. It is an old proposal and it might need some rethinking after the revision I've made to elven infantry

Re: Bladesinger

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 3:07 pm
by Alexander82
Sunrise Samurai wrote: If I may suggest some editing to this unit. I would do away with double strike, and instead let the proposed tech "perfectly ​balanced blades" give it an extra action to make it 2 actions.
I would stick more with the double attack idea since it is a magical-based unit so i prefer a magical source double action that you need to cast on yourself from time to time.

Also this is some sort of less costly (and thus less strong) warmage. I remember i balanced it on the human warmage that costs much but has a native 2 action.

We might still consider lowering the cost to 4 since elven melee units improved in the meantime (originally they costed 3).

Re: Blade Singer

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 3:30 pm
by Sunrise Samurai
Well, I think smite undead is a human ability honestly. Let's avoid that here, especially when fire archers can toast undead with ease. At this point I don't know about burning​ weapon​ being as much fun as say lighting weapon though, still carried by arcane bolt. Maybe include the evade spell ( viewtopic.php?f=125&t=1411 ) instead of strengthen

Re: Blade Singer

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 3:37 pm
by Alexander82
the evade spell is still new tough. Unless you don't want to vote it now it might be a good addition, but first i think we should see the evasion tech pack in game.

Re: Blade Singer

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 3:44 pm
by Sunrise Samurai
Well, in current form this unit has been passed up for a good few votes, so it might be worth the wait to change it and add some appeal before sending it back in.

Re: Blade Singer

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 5:28 pm
by LordOfAles
Please add ACCEPTED status

Re: Blade Singer

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 6:34 pm
by makazuwr32
huh. it is in voting list. Lol.
viewtopic.php?f=158&t=3766

Re: Bladesinger

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:33 am
by makazuwr32
Alexander82 wrote:
Bladesinger
Image
Image
Stats:
Cost 5
HP 20
Attack 8
Range 1
Armor 0
Pierce Armor 0
Speed 4
Sight 6
Action 1
Spell possibility 100%
Spell Resistance 80%
Dodge counter 50%
Can get normally elven craftsman upgrades and all dodges.

Spells:
Double Attack (on self only)
Strenghten (on self only)
Burning Sword: add bonus against wooden units, attack inflict burning effect
Magic Arrow: Ranged Attack (range 5) If burning sword is active it add his special effect to the spell.

Re: Blade Singer

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:29 am
by General Brave
Has this been voted yet.