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Hand Geranader
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 5:37 am
by lordtalamar
How about a foot soldier that carries grenades that do splash damage to nearby enemies.
Re: Hand Geranader
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 1:55 pm
by Darkknight
Grenades and other modern things are not allowed
Re: Hand Geranader
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 2:36 pm
by lordtalamar
Grenades were made way before muskets. In fact the evidence may show that Persians were using grenade like items @ 400bc. Just an idea wasn't thinking he would do as much dmg as the heavy hitters just a little spread area dmg with a chance of blowing himself up.

Re: Hand Geranader
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 6:00 pm
by Dgkfadomo777
The dev does not want any more gunpowder weapons, however this could be added in agle of world wars
Re: Hand Geranader
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 6:35 pm
by COOLguy
These were not necessarily with gunpowder (ie Greek Fire). But let's find a less confusing historical name, and I am for it.
Re: Hand Geranader
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:13 pm
by Alexander82
greek fire thrower?
Re: Hand Geranader
Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 4:51 am
by silentz27
what the heck maybe not grenade its a bomb of magic i see this at the movie the 300
Re: Hand Geranader
Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 5:04 pm
by lordtalamar
alchemist we should name them alchemist have a fire sticky and acid alchemist trained in a special building that takes 8 round to build after learnig a technology
Re: Hand Geranader
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 4:31 pm
by RiverRaider 1097

woah, those would be nasty units

Re: Hand Geranader
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:51 pm
by Dgkfadomo777
We should save this for age of fantasy.
Re: Hand Geranader
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 3:28 pm
by COOLguy
Some possible names:
Greek Fire bomb/grenade (Byzantine)
Naphtha grenade (Persian)
Zhen Tian Lei "Sky-shaking Thunder" (China)
Re: Hand Geranader
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 7:41 am
by silentz27
it should naptha granader when you watch the movie the 300 the spartans have fights to this units
Re: Hand Geranader
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2015 9:16 pm
by balint
The holy hand grenade of Antioch

Re: Hand Geranader
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:35 pm
by lordtalamar
Can we rethink about this guy as gunpowder is obviously now in?
Range 3 or 4
Damage 10 points to target tlie, 5 points to 4 adjacent target tiles
Hp ?
Armor?
Speed 3
Not good with stats really open to suggestions. Maybe bonus damage to flesh and blood units.
grenediers
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 7:05 pm
by Vendetta
They throw grenades(explosives) on enemies and deal splash dmg in a small area they have short range and are squishy they nede 3 turns to make and deal bonus dmg to structures and siege(also good for infantry)
Re: grenediers
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 7:36 pm
by Midonik
Its not too modern?
Re: grenediers
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:09 pm
by Alpha
Grenades did exist but they were rare on the battlefield
Re: grenediers
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:37 pm
by Vendetta
They were used in Africa and Persia they were filled with oil
Re: grenediers
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:42 pm
by Alpha
That is true.
Re: grenediers
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:13 pm
by DoomCarrot
And basic forms of black powder. And we already have basic black powder units.
Re: grenediers
Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 8:11 pm
by COOLguy
merged
Granadier
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:14 am
by Morningwarrior
Unit with old granade Stiles
Hp:14
Dmg:15(ranged dmg)
Have 75% penalty when fight in melee
Armor:1/0
Action:1
Sight:4
Range:3
Speed:3
Turns:4
Bonus
+300% vs siege machine
+150% vs fortifield buildings
+50% vs buildings
Re: Granadier
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:38 am
by L4cus
Morningwarrior wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:14 am
Unit with old granade Stiles
Hp:14
Dmg:15(ranged dmg)
Have 75% penalty when fight in melee
Armor:1/0
Action:1
Sight:4
Range:3
Speed:3
Turns:4
Bonus
+300% vs siege machine
+150% vs fortifield buildings
+50% vs buildings
I like the idea. It should have bonus v inf and cav or scare them.
Re: Granadier
Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:49 am
by Morningwarrior
Maybe,but he have increase to 6 turns,because his is very OP unit.
Re: grenediers
Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:06 pm
by Endru1241
Merged.
Re: grenediers
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:50 pm
by Morningwarrior
In question of melee fight,yes he have,or maybe can have a ability to thower granade.
That is base atk power is 5,used a normal sword of age of gunpower.
Re: grenediers
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 1:28 am
by Endru1241
I don't really know if anybody used granades up to XVI century, but I thought of something similar, which were definitely used.
Molotov's cocktails.
Well, not exactly.
In the middle east Naphtha (crude oil) was used along with various chemical igniters, often packed into vases and thrown into enemy.
Another advantage of that approach is, that AoS already has spreading flames animation (greek fire ship attack), which can be used as explosion animation.
Re: grenediers
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 1:59 am
by L4cus
Endru1241 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 1:28 am
I don't really know if anybody used granades up to XVI century, but I thought of something similar, which were definitely used.
Molotov's cocktails.
Well, not exactly.
In the middle east Naphtha (crude oil) was used along with various chemical igniters, often packed into vases and thrown into enemy.
Another advantage of that approach is, that AoS already has spreading flames animation (greek fire ship attack), which can be used as explosion animation.
He could burn in area, including non structures units.
Re: grenediers
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 2:07 am
by Endru1241
That's what I meant.
Area damage + burn effect.
But I think regular burn should be used - thus no alive unit being burned.
Re: grenediers
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 9:22 am
by makazuwr32
Actually small bomb-like grenades were known in china.
But they were not that powerful and were more like a distraction.