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Ancient vampire — ARCHIVED

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 9:12 am
by Midonik
Undead unit like human warmage,many self buffs.

Re: Tomb warmage

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 9:19 am
by Alexander82
What about a revenant or some sorto of different vampire?

Re: Tomb warmage

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 9:45 am
by Midonik
Let other decide,I dont know. Just think undeds should got warmage,becouse they are one of stronger mages.

Re: Tomb warmage

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 10:12 am
by Alexander82
Warmages have a different approach than mages. Generally warmages are human since they use their versatility to learn both things (fighting and casting). Generally undeads warriors are mindless summons with some exceptions (vampires, or units like the death knight/spectral knight), so we should think why this unit is able to cast (and is not a mindless animated corpse). That's why i proposed the revenant idea.

Re: Tomb warmage

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 10:15 am
by Midonik
So:
War lich-lich tech him self to fight
Vampire mage-wampire can cast speels and also fight
Make other unit,lich buffer,avablie to make undeds stronger

Re: Tomb warmage

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 10:36 am
by Alexander82
Sorry i don't get it. A lich can't lear to fight since he is a dead body and can't train his strength anymore xD

I mean, for the warmage let's choose a unit name/look that makes sense. The unit is ok for the rest ;)

Re: Tomb warmage

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 10:40 am
by Midonik
This way,I prefer to make vampire mage,use support magic (mayby also fear speel) and fight. It makes more sense,I think.

Re: Tomb warmage

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 10:42 am
by Alexander82
Vampires are known for both magic and physical prowess, that is why i proposed that

Re: Tomb warmage

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 10:45 am
by Midonik
Ok. Is it passible to rename topic?

Re: Tomb warmage

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 1:27 pm
by Midonik
Speels:
Buring weapon (self)
Fear
Curse (but if you prefer not,its ok,of course it work after make a tech)
Lifelink (not at himself becouse he is vampire and always got it,but for units at 1 range,of you aggre)
Duble strike (only himself,he will got 1 action point,so he will need this speel. I dont give him 2 ap to make him little weaker than human)
I think we should give him one self buff more

Re: Tomb warmage

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:05 pm
by Alexander82
About lifelink for others i don't agree since the point for warmages is autobuffing and, as you stated, a vampire has already lifelink (which is very strong by itself)

Ok for self double strike if he have only 1 action

I would make fear different: instead of burning strike (vampire are weak to fire) i would make fear strike (attacks gives fear on hit)

Curse seems too much (it is the best undead spell and i would leave it to mummy only or at least to full casters)

I would make another buff called frozen blade that will make attacks deal also -1 to speed (non cumulative)

Another buff might be "unholy speed" that gives a bonus to speed

As the basic vampire i would give it the option to transform into bat form (to gain flying while in that form)

Re: Tomb warmage

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:08 pm
by Midonik
Ok,sonuds good. Thanks from interesed.

Re: Tomb warmage

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:12 pm
by Midonik
Stats same to standard vampire?

Re: Tomb warmage

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:16 pm
by Alexander82
I think it should have lower stats or the other vampire will be too weak compared to it.

Re: Tomb warmage

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:23 pm
by Midonik
So:
5 attack
5 hp
Less than vampire and cost +1?

Re: Tomb warmage

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:27 pm
by Alexander82
I will check later

Re: Tomb warmage

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 4:08 pm
by Midonik
Name change to Ancient vampire.

Re: Tomb warmage

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 5:30 pm
by Midonik
If we make like I say lateer we will got stats:
Cost:9
Hp:35
Attack:17
Not sure its good.

Re: Ancient vampire

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:08 pm
by Ayush Tiwari
A vampire with a magical stuff?
Is that the way,it should have image

Re: Ancient vampire

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:03 pm
by Midonik
Archeologists,huh? Its quite old idea.

Re: Ancient vampire

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:20 pm
by Typhoon
Old but still cool

Re: Ancient vampire

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:14 pm
by General Brave
Is very old vampire, how is he better than most other vampires besides being experience and old.

Re: Ancient vampire

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:17 pm
by Midonik
He has time to learn magic. But he get little rusty in combat,isnt as good as his younger cousins.

Re: Ancient vampire

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:20 pm
by General Brave
What type of spells where he have?

Hypnosis? petrified? Teleportation?

Re: Tomb warmage

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:27 pm
by Midonik
Alexander82 wrote:About lifelink for others i don't agree since the point for warmages is autobuffing and, as you stated, a vampire has already lifelink (which is very strong by itself)

Ok for self double strike if he have only 1 action

I would make fear different: instead of burning strike (vampire are weak to fire) i would make fear strike (attacks gives fear on hit)

Curse seems too much (it is the best undead spell and i would leave it to mummy only or at least to full casters)

I would make another buff called frozen blade that will make attacks deal also -1 to speed (non cumulative)

Another buff might be "unholy speed" that gives a bonus to speed

As the basic vampire i would give it the option to transform into bat form (to gain flying while in that form)

Re: Ancient vampire

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:43 pm
by General Brave
Most of those doesn't feel like it was fit, except LifeLink and bat form.

I would like him at least stun his enemies and able to hypnotize to be his ally for 3 turn. Cool down 5

Re: Ancient vampire

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:47 pm
by Midonik
Hiopnose idea will require coding,but stun will be ok. But how about slowing instant?

Re: Ancient vampire

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:02 pm
by General Brave
Just 1 take away speed or 2?

Re: Ancient vampire

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:11 pm
by Midonik
As normal.

Re: Ancient vampire

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 4:26 am
by Ayush Tiwari
Hypnotise sounds nice.