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Manticore Rider! The Gryphon Rider counterpart!

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 4:50 am
by Dagravian
For those who don't know what the manticore is, it is a...

"legendary creature similar to the Egyptian sphinx. It has the body of a red lion, a human head with three rows of sharp teeth (like a shark), sometimes bat-like wings, and a trumpet-like voice. Other aspects of the creature vary from story to story. It may be horned, winged, or both. The tail is that of either a dragon or a scorpion, and it may shoot venomous spines to either paralyze or kill its victims. It devours its prey whole and leaves no clothes, bones, or possessions of the prey behind."

I currently think it would be an awesome add to undead air arsenal!

Re: Manticore Rider! The Gryphon Rider counterpart!

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 6:07 am
by DoomCarrot
So it would be like an undead version of the drake knight?

Re: Manticore Rider! The Gryphon Rider counterpart!

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 8:14 am
by Alexander82
What race?

Re: Manticore Rider! The Gryphon Rider counterpart!

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 1:33 pm
by Dagravian
DoomCarrot wrote:So it would be like an undead version of the drake knight?
Almost that, but more likely to Gryphon Rider role (not released yet... But you can take a look on him on that unit list provided by Alexander82)
Alexander82 wrote:What race?
No idea, it could fit both human and undead classes, but since humans would get the gryphon soon, i think it could fit on undead race

Re: Manticore Rider! The Gryphon Rider counterpart!

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 12:09 am
by Alexander82
Something similar was proposed for elves. The chimera.

Re: Manticore Rider! The Gryphon Rider counterpart!

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 1:22 am
by Dagravian
Alexander82 wrote:Something similar was proposed for elves. The chimera.
Oh i see it, actualy got inspired by that also, but since chimeras don't fly...

I don't think chimeras would fit with elves, unless there was some sort of elf alchemist with power to fuse or summon them... For elves i think the Pegasus Rider would fit better that role.

*Also when i was looking the proposals... why i don't saw anyone that have proposed wyvern riders for the Orcs???*

Re: Manticore Rider! The Gryphon Rider counterpart!

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 2:25 am
by Alexander82
You can do it on the orc section ;)

Re: Manticore Rider! The Gryphon Rider counterpart!

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:26 am
by Dagravian
Alexander82 wrote:You can do it on the orc section ;)
Done :D

Re: Manticore Rider! The Gryphon Rider counterpart!

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 9:19 am
by Typhoon
That would be pretty cool

Re: Manticore Rider! The Gryphon Rider counterpart!

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 11:06 am
by Sunrise Samurai
For elves, I'd actually go with eagle or dragon riders, from the current eagles and dragons.

Re: Manticore Rider! The Gryphon Rider counterpart!

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 11:48 am
by Typhoon
If someone could move this topic to undead section

Re: Manticore Rider! The Gryphon Rider counterpart!

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:13 pm
by Lynx Shafir
Fits to Beastclans too
Or humans if make non flying version.
Is living creature so not sure fit the undead

Re: Manticore Rider! The Gryphon Rider counterpart!

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:18 pm
by Gral.Sturnn
Why not making an undead dragon rider that would fit better i think

Re: Manticore Rider! The Gryphon Rider counterpart!

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:52 am
by Lynx Shafir
Nazgul riding a wyvern. Cool

Re: Manticore Rider! The Gryphon Rider counterpart!

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:16 am
by LordOfAles
I don't approve.

Re: Manticore Rider! The Gryphon Rider counterpart!

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:09 pm
by General Brave
What's not improve?

Re: Manticore Rider! The Gryphon Rider counterpart!

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:23 pm
by LordOfAles
Nazgul riding a wyvern is wrong. It's fell beast that should be rode lol.

Re: Manticore Rider! The Gryphon Rider counterpart!

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:25 pm
by General Brave
Is that what it was?

Re: Manticore Rider! The Gryphon Rider counterpart!

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:26 pm
by LordOfAles
Not rly. I will post pics.

Re: Manticore Rider! The Gryphon Rider counterpart!

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:28 pm
by LordOfAles
Similiar but different breed.

Re: Manticore Rider! The Gryphon Rider counterpart!

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:30 pm
by General Brave
What is this for?

Re: Manticore Rider! The Gryphon Rider counterpart!

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:33 pm
by LordOfAles
Comparison. Wait why half of posts says wyvern while other half chimera

Re: Manticore Rider! The Gryphon Rider counterpart!

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:42 pm
by Dagravian
Lynx Shafir wrote: Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:13 pm Fits to Beastclans too
Or humans if make non flying version.
Is living creature so not sure fit the undead
Beastclan is not a finished faction yet, but there are many creatures that would fill that role on that side for them, like those eagle people (that i forget the name)... And its not a question of being a livingbeing or not, it's mostly classified with being a Netherworld/Otherworld creatures... But back to topic. Humans already have Gryphon rider, and for elves they might have chimera (that would fit undeads aswell, but who knows, maybe a crazy druid mave mixed the wrong potions again :lol: ), there isn't plans for anything alike to orcs, maybe that wyvern rider they where talking. But the idea was made for the first 4 factions released at that moment, to create a unit to do the same role as gryphon rider for humans. Something good on Air-Air battles.

Re: Manticore Rider! The Gryphon Rider counterpart!

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:47 pm
by General Brave
We see.

Re: Manticore Rider! The Gryphon Rider counterpart!

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:50 pm
by General Brave
So what's the idea.

Re: Manticore Rider! The Gryphon Rider counterpart!

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 9:32 pm
by Dagravian
Simple! one unit that is cheaper than the high end troops and still reliable to use.

Here the stats:

Cost: 5-6
Hp: 36
Attack power: 15
Range 1
Armor: 3
Pierce armor: 3
Speed: 8
sight: 10
Action/turn: 1
Spell resistance: 100%
Builder: Mansion
Bonus against other flying units, bonus against mounted, bonus against dragons.
Abilities: Scorpion Tail - Deals poison damage up to 2 range, and due it's particular venom, Blood/Meat units became paralized for 2 turns (does not prevent the unit from counterattacking closer units while affected) - Cooldown 3 turns.

Re: Manticore Rider! The Gryphon Rider counterpart!

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 9:34 pm
by General Brave
Is this the Manticore?

Re: Manticore Rider! The Gryphon Rider counterpart!

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 9:35 pm
by makazuwr32
WAIT-wait-wait!
Manticores themself are much more powerful units than gryphons.
They are also much less tamable for riding.

Re: Manticore Rider! The Gryphon Rider counterpart!

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 9:39 pm
by Dagravian
makazuwr32 wrote: Thu Aug 02, 2018 9:35 pm WAIT-wait-wait!
Manticores themself are much more powerful units than gryphons.
They are also much less tamable for riding.
Who said undeads need to tame them? They just summon them and they obey :lol: And stats can be changed anytime that was just one made in comparisson to Gryphons

Re: Manticore Rider! The Gryphon Rider counterpart!

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 9:44 pm
by makazuwr32
for undeads?!
NOnonononono.
in greek myphology manticore is extremly powerful creature nd definately living one.
Also undeads can't "summon" living units - only other undeads and demons (lesser ones because we have a discussion about demons as separate race)

i want to see manticores (without riders) as part of beastclans.