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Bone mantlet — ARCHIVED

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:37 am
by Sunrise Samurai
Cost 4 at tc, 8 from workers
Hp: 25
Armor: 3/6
Carries 1
Speed 1

It's mostly the same thing as AoS mantlet, but with a bit of normal armor added. Add in casters can spell cast from it, and it's a mobile way to protect and use some of the most vulnerable undead units....I'm looking at you, lich.

Re: Bone mantlet

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 9:09 am
by LordOfAles
Speed is abysmal,why 1? Why not 2,but when someone is in it 3?

Re: Bone mantlet

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 9:21 am
by Sunrise Samurai
Because I basically copied the stats from AoS, that's why. I actually added the 3 armor to make it better. This being said, AoF and AoS have very different balances, and anything that goes into AoF has to be justified as to if it will be used or not. I'm sure the same AoS hack of packing catapults into battering​ rams into mantlets into wagons into transports can be applied here.....or did someone plug that hole since I last played AoS? Anyway, the stats are up for debate, but there's your explanation for the initial stats. I do agree 1 speed sounds a bit slow, but what does everyone else think.

Re: Bone mantlet

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 3:04 pm
by Puss_in_Boots
The Manlet should follow the same basic principle as the AoS design. A slow moving shield that prevents the unit from being harmed. If it becomes a maneuverable shield upon units going inside, that would look wierd.

Re: Bone mantlet

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 4:28 pm
by LordOfAles
Ok,maybe just set it to 2 speed,bones are easier than wood

Re: Bone mantlet

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 4:30 pm
by Puss_in_Boots
Far stronger as well, which actually makes 3 armor a sensible decision.

Re: Bone mantlet

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 5:13 pm
by LordOfAles
Here is yer" image ya sea rat

Re: Bone mantlet

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 5:20 pm
by Puss_in_Boots
I was expecting something more neat, like bones lined up to create a shield.

Re: Bone mantlet

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 5:20 pm
by Alexander82
Can people attack from inside a mantlet?

I'd like a new kind of effect. For example people around the mantlet might obtain a +3 to pierce armor.

Re: Bone mantlet

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 5:21 pm
by LordOfAles
Puss_in_Boots wrote:I was expecting something more neat, like bones lined up to create a shield.
But isnt taht going to be pretty unstable?

Re: Bone mantlet

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 5:23 pm
by Sunrise Samurai
I think he means neatly ordered in rows. And yes, you can attack from inside it, just like in AoS. It's mostly to protect casters though, as undead don't have much as far as archers to go by.

Re: Bone mantlet

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 5:25 pm
by Sunrise Samurai
The added pierce armor to adjacent units sounds good, but isn't something undead really need. They have high enough pierce armor as it is. I would consider the idea for something of human design, however.

Re: Bone mantlet

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 5:29 pm
by LordOfAles
I will try to redesign the image(i didnt get it,should bones be vertical or horizontal?)

Re: Bone mantlet

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 5:30 pm
by Puss_in_Boots
Vertical.

Re: Bone mantlet

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 2:30 pm
by LordOfAles
I added a skeleton holding a mantlet,to different it from human design,and purple color is rope which holds the bones together

Re: Bone mantlet

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 2:47 pm
by Puss_in_Boots
I really didn't want It to differentiate much from the old mantlet. I just wanted a direct reskin of the mantlet, that way the graphics onscreen looked cleaner. You can still have a skeleton hold it, but please have one singular bone lined up with many others facing straight upwards.

It doesn't matter if it sounds unrealistic it's just Fantasy after all. :)

Re: Bone mantlet

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 3:00 pm
by LordOfAles
Ok ok i didnt say anything :)

Re: Bone mantlet

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:11 pm
by LordOfAles
This(in my opinion) is less original,while my version is more original and more of undead design,this one looks like humans ran out of wood(LordOfAles uses words!Its super effective!)

Re: Bone mantlet

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:25 pm
by Sunrise Samurai
Looks good to me

Re: Bone mantlet

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:29 pm
by LordOfAles
Sunrise Samurai wrote:Looks good to me
Thanks!I knew you would like my version!

Re: Bone mantlet

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:35 pm
by Puss_in_Boots
Actually it looks better than the rest. That isn't what I imagined for it to look like though it's too messy... why would we need the design to be original? It's not like we've seen Bone Mantlets a million times on TV before... Back to image, the wheels could use a more spherical shape, the lines take away from that. Also it looks very weird how you just added random strips, I wanted every part to look like a bone, except the wheels and that team colored string that holds it all together.

Re: Bone mantlet

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:39 pm
by LordOfAles
Why dont you draw it then? :| Im currently busy working on redesign of Samurai and Necrophage

Re: Bone mantlet

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:40 pm
by LordOfAles
Maybe we could use skull mantlet anyway? (image 1)

Re: Bone mantlet

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:43 pm
by Sunrise Samurai
If you want to be creative, maybe make it a giant hollow skull on wheels?

Re: Bone mantlet

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:46 pm
by LordOfAles
Arrows would go straight thru its eyes.......bwhahahhah,stop it lol hahahhah im cryingxD hahahHAHA :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Bone mantlet

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:49 pm
by Puss_in_Boots
It does kinda sound a bit too silly for Mideveal Fantasy.

Re: Bone mantlet

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:28 pm
by makazuwr32
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