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Elite Skirmisher Upgrade - ANSWERED
Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 1:12 pm
by LordOfAles
New name: Master Skirmisher
Hp +3
Attack +2
Armor +0/+1
Sight +1
Cost: 6
Researched at archery range
Re: Elite Skirmisher Upgrade
Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 4:49 pm
by Fildin
Not bad, good stats. Skirmshers are weak in my opinion even upgraded so this unit needs something that can make it a little stronger. I really like this idea

Re: Elite Skirmisher Upgrade
Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 4:57 pm
by LordOfAles
Skirmishers are supposed to be weak, and strong only against archers
Re: Elite Skirmisher Upgrade DISCUSSING
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 12:36 pm
by Fildin
Upraded should be better vs other units.

Re: Elite Skirmisher Upgrade DISCUSSING
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 12:40 pm
by LordOfAles
It gains reasonable stats, skirmishers shouldnt kill swordmen you know
Others?
Re: Elite Skirmisher Upgrade DISCUSSING
Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:48 pm
by DoomCarrot
Master skirmishers already exist, as upgrade from normal skirmisher.
They are also one of my favorite basic units, so idk why everyone is complaining that they are so weak.

Re: Elite Skirmisher Upgrade DISCUSSING
Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 9:58 pm
by COOLguy
DoomCarrot wrote:Master skirmishers already exist, as upgrade from normal skirmisher.
They are also one of my favorite basic units, so idk why everyone is complaining that they are so weak.

Preach it. all truth here
Re: Elite Skirmisher Upgrade DISCUSSING
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:40 pm
by LordOfAles
Re: Elite Skirmisher Upgrade
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 2:27 am
by Belfry777
Yeah this would be the first unit to have two upgrades form the base grade unit!!
Re: Elite Skirmisher Upgrade
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:04 am
by makazuwr32
Actually second.
First one is a regular swordman
(Swordman -> Broad Swordman -> Man-at-arms)
Re: Elite Skirmisher Upgrade
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 5:42 pm
by Belfry777
I thought man-at=arms was a unit not an upgrade but if you say so.
Re: Elite Skirmisher Upgrade
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:30 pm
by makazuwr32
Man-at-Arms is Second tier Upgrade for basic Swordmen.
Researchablle at barracks after complete Broad Swordman upgrade.
Re: Elite Skirmisher Upgrade
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:51 pm
by Belfry777
Now i see what you are talking about.
Re: Elite Skirmisher Upgrade
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:45 pm
by General Brave
I don't know about this, it doesn't seem much but also it doesn't make it too powerful.
Re: Elite Skirmisher Upgrade
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:53 am
by Belfry777
Lets face it, skirmishers suck! So I really don't care what happens! they are week and winy anyway.
Re: Elite Skirmisher Upgrade
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:58 am
by General Brave
There are useful against archers, unless there's many of them.
Re: Elite Skirmisher Upgrade
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:01 am
by Belfry777
Yeah even better if they are one on one.
Re: Elite Skirmisher Upgrade
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 2:49 am
by DoomCarrot
Belfry777 wrote:Lets face it, skirmishers suck! So I really don't care what happens! they are week and winy anyway.
skirmishers kick butt.
They already pretty much one hit kill all archer units when fully upgraded, so there isn't all too much reason to buff them again, except to fight other units like infantry, which they were never really meant to do well lol
Re: Elite Skirmisher Upgrade
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 3:32 am
by Belfry777
I guess if you see it that way.
Re: Elite Skirmisher Upgrade
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:08 am
by godOfKings
DoomCarrot wrote:skirmishers kick butt.
They already pretty much one hit kill all archer units when fully upgraded,
Not if u also upgrade archer armour, then they manage to survive for 1 or 2 hp and it really suks, although it only happens at a really long game, and dont forget crossbows although to me fire archers r more useful
Re: Elite Skirmisher Upgrade
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:10 am
by godOfKings
but anyways, i have no intention of making a single unit get a tier three upgrade, only man-at-arms is exceptional, may b wen all useful units have tier two upgrades i will think about it
Re: Elite Skirmisher Upgrade
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 5:53 pm
by Belfry777
Can you spell go?
Re: Elite Skirmisher Upgrade
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:49 pm
by StormSaint373
Skirmishers should have increased speed though...
Base speed 4
"They have no armor and are to be able to be at any position almost at any time.
Skirmishers are meant to hamper the enemy before the 2 armies clash, getting in and out b4 the enemy can close." The only unit able to catch them should be cavalry.
Re: Elite Skirmisher Upgrade
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:58 pm
by Patrol3110
this is a good idea since swordman would be never used if it didnt have man at arms. And i actually never, never saw a skirmisher being used so the upgrade would be useful
Re: Elite Skirmisher Upgrade
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:02 pm
by makazuwr32
They have already one upgrade.
Re: Elite Skirmisher Upgrade
Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:52 pm
by Belfry777
we need some stats..
Re: Elite Skirmisher Upgrade
Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:15 pm
by makazuwr32
Master skirmisher has
10 hp
5 attack (and 50% bonus damage to all archers exept of elephant archers to whom they're dealing 400% bonus damage)
4 range
0/6 armor
and they are upgradeble by blacksmith archer upgrades so you can add +2 to attack, range and both armors.
Re: Elite Skirmisher Upgrade
Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:24 pm
by Belfry777
Not bad I like those stats dose anyone have any objections?
Re: Elite Skirmisher Upgrade
Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:37 pm
by makazuwr32
These stats are of current Master Skirmisher in the game.
Re: Elite Skirmisher Upgrade
Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:42 pm
by StormSaint373
I still suggest that the speed be increased to 4 as well.