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Mithril guard — ARCHIVED

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:13 pm
by Menselot
At the deep rooms of the dwarfen strongholds the mithril guards furfil their oaths as the ever watching eyes of the ancient keeps. As their name describes they wear one of the thickest and most well crafted suits of armor in the whole world. To possess such an armor is a great honor but comes at a huge cost because the guard must spent most of his years protecting the passageways and tunnels of his keep sacrificing a normal life to protect others.
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Stats :
Cost: 5 turns
Health: 50
Armour: 4
Damage: 16-18
Armour piercing: 4
Speed: 3
Sight: 5
Action/turn 1/1
Power range: 1
Spell resistance: 50%
Builder: dwarven barracks, Kingdom under the mountain

No unit receives a bonus against him
standart bonuses against buildings
50% bonus against giants

Everything with the form of x-y are values that we can choose...

Possible changes for the name: grommil guard, ironbreakers.

Abilities (everything is subject to be changed or removed.
Also some of these abilities could be added as technologies):

a) Flash bomb
- 3 range
-free action
- 4-5 turns cooldown (common? cooldown with "blasting charges")
- stuns an enemy for one turn and reveals the area around him ( reveals 6-8 blocks around the targeted unit )

b) Blasting charges
- 5-7 turns cooldown (common? cooldown with "flash bomb")
- 2-3 range
-free action
-Everything in 1 radius from the targeted unit suffers 7-15 damage and gains the burning effect.

c) Hold guardian (not an a ability but an effect ?) {this may be a good idea ....or not you decide}
If the dwarf is further than 1-2 blocks from a dwarfen stronghold, kingdom under the mountain or city he loose 2-4 armor and gains 1 movement and sight (this is why he removes his armor and helmet and wears a common armor)

This unit is inspired by:
The original mithril guard (lotr)
The ironbreakers (tww2)

Re: Mitrhril guard

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:28 pm
by Alexander82
Without cost is difficult to judge. Also the dwarven defender fits the same role so we might use the mithril theme for techs.

Re: Mitrhril guard

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:29 pm
by Sunrise Samurai
Yeah. Mythril theme for techs. Though I do like the idea of limiting the sight range of dwarves.

Re: Mitrhril guard

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:39 pm
by Alexander82
I disagree about dwarven sight. Dwarves have one of the best sight in d&d. They've got darkvision that allow them to see in complete darkness

Re: Mithril guard (under development)

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:02 pm
by Menselot
1) Mithril for techs ? I like the idea of the dwarfs taking a technology for increasing their armor but naming it "mithrill armor" is silly .... How can the dwarfs afford all their basic soldiers to have a suit of armor made from mithril ? If such a tech is made it must be named differently.

2)There is a difference between:
- How well a dwarf can see in darkness and at short distances.
-And the range of their sight .

Example : in the book "hobbit" the dwarfs ask bilbo to get up the tree because he can see better.
Evolution makes creatures that live in dark places to develop their sight with results of huge eyes that end to be completely blind ( just like Gollum ).

Re: Mitrhril guard (under development)

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:09 pm
by Alexander82
1) for the same reason orcs can swarm kings

2) all units have generally sight equal to speed+1 or range+1

Re: Mitrhril guard (under development)

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:32 pm
by Menselot
1) what do you meen with swam orcs
2) i do not ask about all dwarfen units have such a sight only this unit .
Also the unit have 2-3 speed so it have 3-4 sight where is the problem with that ?

Re: Mitrhril guard (under development)

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:43 pm
by Alexander82
1) you basically can have more kings than other units (so the fact that having all in mithril don't makes sense)

2) It was simply cause you were speaking about dwarves having a bad sight so I answered. Can't see the problem.

Re: Mitrhril guard (under development)

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:29 pm
by Menselot
Edited the post
I hope you like it :)

Re: Mitrhril guard (under development)

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 4:28 pm
by Menselot
I will start making an image just for fun but i want everyone to consider the abilities of this unit and tell me what they think

Re: Mitrhril guard (under development)

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 6:55 pm
by Menselot
Image

Re: Mitrhril guard (under development)

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 6:57 pm
by Menselot
Image

Re: Mitrhril guard (under development)

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:00 pm
by LordOfAles
I think the second pic is showing mithril more than first, the first looks like regular Iron Mountain iron

Re: Mitrhril guard (under development)

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:03 pm
by Menselot
the first one is an ironbreaker the armor is good but the color is wrong i agree

Re: Mitrhril guard (under development)

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:04 pm
by Menselot
where can i find the image of gimli (the unit) ?

Re: Mitrhril guard (under development)

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:08 pm
by LordOfAles
Here you go.You can copy paste it to desktop, then you can edit him

Re: Mitrhril guard (under development)

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:14 pm
by Menselot
where do you find those images ? (if you have any time can you find the paladin {the unit} too ?)

Re: Mitrhril guard (under development)

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:16 pm
by LordOfAles
This one?

Re: Mitrhril guard (under development)

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:16 pm
by LordOfAles
Menselot wrote:where do you find those images ?
I simply asked daniel to send them to me

Re: Mitrhril guard (under development)

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:18 pm
by Menselot
oh thanks

Re: Mitrhril guard (under development)

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:18 pm
by LordOfAles
no problem ;)

Re: Mitrhril guard (under development)

Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:30 pm
by Menselot
HE IS READY TO BEHEAD SOME GOBLINS

Re: Mitrhril guard

Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:37 pm
by Menselot
Tell me what you think (except that he is a cousin to Gimli)

Re: Mitrhril guard

Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:39 pm
by LordOfAles
Its a great image, but i gave myself freedom to edit it a bit more :)

Re: Mitrhril guard

Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:42 pm
by Menselot
well he must have a beard !!!!! (the brown to his chest is a beard)
but I think I may want to make him a black beard

Re: Mitrhril guard

Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:42 pm
by LordOfAles
lol that brown looked like lether armor

Re: Mitrhril guard

Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:44 pm
by LordOfAles
normal beard added, we dont want WAY TOO BIG beard

Re: Mitrhril guard

Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:47 pm
by Menselot
also as you can see at the image that I have posted (from total war third age reforged) the upper part of the axe is made by iron something that makes sense (because we do not want the axe to break by the use)
still thanks for your opinion :)

Re: Mitrhril guard

Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:48 pm
by Menselot
we can keep the beard that you have made I like it :mrgreen:

Re: Mitrhril guard

Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:50 pm
by Sunrise Samurai
Menselot wrote:well he must have a beard !!!!! (the brown to his chest is a beard)
but I think I may want to make him a black beard
Yes. All dwarves absolutely must have beards unless specified as female.