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The Zulus,native and ancient African swordsman with.............
Attack:7
HP-15/15
Speed:5
Armour-3
Pierce Armour-3
Range:1
Action/turn-0.5(can hit once every 2 turns)
Has bonus against Archers,Crossbow Archers and other ranged units.

Ayush Tiwari wrote:The Zulus,native and ancient African swordsman with.............
Attack:7
HP-15/15
Speed:5
Armour-3
Pierce Armour-3
Range:1
Action/turn-0.5(can hit once every 2 turns)
Has bonus against Archers,Crossbow Archers and other ranged units.

I think this is a repeat post. Could someone track down if there was a former Zulu suggestion

I don't know what you mean,but when it is searched,there are only 3 places there.

what is the benefit and the different from a skirmisher?

Because he has 7 attack, with normal skirmisher bonus he can one shot kill most of the current ranged units, also he has some normal armor too

is this can affect by the techs (e.g infantry armor tech)

?? if yes, this will be OP , imho

I think this is a pretty strong unit already, so i think no

What do you think about action/turn:0.5(can attack once in two turns)

Also then HP should be 10 or ? because the reason in Zulu's were never so strong.My suggestion was just becuase cheapest 2 turn units are not so tough.

Also please see the link in my signature once,

WAITWAITWAITWAIT... is this a skirmisher? Because it has a bonus like one

I meant normal infranties and not archers.
The bonus is so because mostly archers were encountered in those African region(reasons were many like scary densed forests,hot climate made the early archers alot of unused to it,zulus swaardbegter were having sword nice only against unarmoured unit,and when it comes for other armoured units,archers were not armoured.They were lightweight and targets enemy from far)

if you want to make it cheap, reduce or change the stats as weaker... 0.5 turns?? its impossible... did you mean two walk and 1 attack?

Dont we already have an shielder that fullfils the role of this unit? Killing archers with infantry?

MightyGuy wrote:if you want to make it cheap, reduce or change the stats as weaker... 0.5 turns?? its impossible... did you mean two walk and 1 attack?

Yes.

LordOfAles wrote:Dont we already have an shielder that fullfils the role of this unit? Killing archers with infantry?

I agree.But reducing the stats simply will make it of no use.Maybe,more simpler will be 3 turns,but 3 turn units easily dominate this.

What about giving this unit speed 3 instead? And raise the cost to 3

Yes.The speed is like a horse

What?

LordOfAles wrote:What?

Speed is 5.For a walking and normal unit it isn't so fast in walking.

Oh i just noticed in the first post that speed is 5 lol

Speed 5 is illogical and moreover, zulu's are tribesmen afterall and cannot be armoured that to so heavily.Ofcourse, one thing which can be done is that give them a ranged attack as well as a non ranged attack(i.e. range 1) and 2 or 3 action turns.

This unit would be best used when your opponent has a,strong archer force with a screen of infantry. They are tough enough in melee to stand toe to toe with such a screen, while also having the ability to wreak havoc once they make it through.

A cavalry/skirmisher combo is currently what I use in these situations, but your opponent can easily prevent that from being effective by using some pikemen in the infantry screen.

I agree with DoomCarrot.But what Devang said to give it a range,why?Its a swordsman.Swaardbegter,in that(Zulu) language is said to as Swordsman

Maybe it could just be called zulu tribesamn or something?

DoomCarrot wrote:Maybe it could just be called zulu tribesamn or something?

Think that isn't sounding current.

i advised a ranged attack along with a melee attack since hardly any tribesmen existed just as swordsman(or any melee unit) and mostly had a mid-range throwing weapon(like the cudgel used by zulus). Most importantly the units normal armour must not exceed 1 and pierce armour not more than 2 (they are tribesmen not an organised standing army)

Devang wrote:i advised a ranged attack along with a melee attack since hardly any tribesmen existed just as swordsman(or any melee unit) and mostly had a mid-range throwing weapon(like the cudgel used by zulus). Most importantly the units normal armour must not exceed 1 and pierce armour not more than 2 (they are tribesmen not an organised standing army)

Yes,I agree with this,Devang.I just searched more of this,their swords weren't too strong.They were made of wood.Yes,they used pikes of wood tied with stone on top as attacking part,but this a swordsman,no pike etc. Throwers,attack I don't know what should be.5 I hope.

I actually think a speed of 5 is fine as african tribes hunt by chasing their pray for days of non stop running and the great zulu army was very mobile.
Aditionaly they were professionals and dominated the region (until the brits came)
Btw the sources i found showed iron swords

I think this have a 3 point of speed insead 5.