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Stumtiger (German) IMPLMENTED

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:38 pm
by Belfry777
This special tank was a modified version of the "tiger tank" thus it's name (stum-tiger) this tank should tank heavy tanks tech, and 5 turns to build in my opinion. Also this tank is very weird!

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Re: stumtiger (German)

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 5:14 pm
by Midonik
Its self-propelled artillery version of tiger,right? It might be good rival for sp kv-2 then.

Re: stumtiger (German)

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:25 am
by Belfry777
I think you mean the kv-2 spg, and yes I think it could be a good counter to the Russians.

Re: stumtiger (German)

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 3:16 am
by Ayush Tiwari
TO JUSTICE

What about the stats

Re: stumtiger (German)

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:05 am
by Belfry777
Well the stats should be the same as the tiger. But remember the gun was as big as a battle ship gun!! And with a shocking range of 120 km (75 miles) I now think of supper heavy tank construction. I will have the stats of this tank soon.

Re: stumtiger (German)

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:53 am
by Ayush Tiwari
Good effort,i will try the image till then...

Re: stumtiger (German)

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:23 am
by Belfry777
Here I will relieve you of the task, you do the German jet.

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Here it is take one!

Re: stumtiger (German)

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 4:46 am
by samuelch
This is my try based from your image.

Re: stumtiger (German)

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:17 pm
by Belfry777
Nice! I tried to make it most real as possible by making it 3D but yours is better.

Re: stumtiger (German)

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:52 pm
by Ayush Tiwari
So what about the stats?
Samuelch:Wonderful image,nice shade!

Re: stumtiger (German)

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:15 pm
by samuelch
The stats will mostly be the same as Tiger I. The difference will be attack power with area of effect, range, and speed.

Re: stumtiger (German)

Posted: Sat May 12, 2018 12:15 pm
by Ayush Tiwari
These stats are of Tiger 1
Cost:6
Hp:73/73
Attack Power:25
Range:1
Armor:8
Expl.Armor:7
Speed:4
Sight:4
Action/turn:1/1
Spell Resistance:0%
10% and 50% bonus against most units

I suggest these for StumTiger:
Cost:6
HP:80
Attack Power:(Should this increase,or decrease?)
Range:not sure,I think it is large ranged,so...5or6??
Armour:8
Expl.Armour:7
Speed:6
Sight:7or8
Action Turn:1/1
Spell Resitance:0%
Bonus,more against Heavy and Medium Tanks

Re: stumtiger (German)

Posted: Sun May 13, 2018 2:38 am
by Belfry777
The stats listed need to be changed but look very good for a first try. First thing is the stumtiger did not have a long rang it was very short actually, next the power should increase, HP looks good however. Armor is good, cost needs to go to 8 though.

Re: stumtiger (German)

Posted: Sun May 13, 2018 3:33 am
by Ayush Tiwari
Belfry777 wrote:The stats listed need to be changed but look very good for a first try. First thing is the stumtiger did not have a long rang it was very short actually, next the power should increase, HP looks good however. Armor is good, cost needs to go to 8 though.
So these should be....
Range:3
Power:30
Cost:8
But,why are you wanting cost to be8,even bombers don't have so much Cost

Re: stumtiger (German)

Posted: Sun May 13, 2018 10:08 pm
by Belfry777
The cost could go down if this unit requires super heavy tank construction, like 6, I like everything else though.

Re: stumtiger (German)

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 3:29 am
by Ayush Tiwari
Then lets consider this final time:
Cost;6
Attack:30
Range:3
HP:80
Armour:8
Expl. Armour:7
Speed:5
Sight:7or8
Action/Turn:1/1
Spell Resistance:0%
Requires:SUPER HEAVY TANK CONSTRUCTION TECH
Bonus:Heavy and Medium Tanks

Re: stumtiger (German)

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 5:21 am
by makazuwr32
One thing that i'm against is 3 tiles range.
After few modifications IS-152 (modification of SU-152) could shoot up to 7 km and stumtiger could only up to 3.5 km (NO 120 KM RANGE IN REALITY!)
makazuwr32 wrote:More power - no. More armor - it must have same armor as normal tiger.
As well as su 152 must have same armor as KV-1.

Base speed of su 152's projectile was 600 meters/second, mass of projectile was 100-200 kilogramms, maximal distance was 6200 meters.

Base speed of stumtiger's projectile was 250 meters/second, mass of projectile was 300 kilogramms, maximal distance was 3500 meters.

Power of su 152's projectile was 150x600=90'000 Newtons while power of stumtiger's one was 350x300=75'000 Newtons.
This means that even with lesser diameter it has better power.
Another NO is its speed. It is super heavy tank, heavier was only Maus. And speed is higher than for example PKZ-1? THEN T-34 must have speed of 8-12 'cause it's speed AND mobility (i mean moving without refueling) were much higher.

Also about tanks speed we need another topic.

Re: stumtiger (German)

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 8:16 am
by Ayush Tiwari
Speed:Wiki says StumTiger was faster than ISU-152
Range:I have no idea what you are saying,you can check on wikipedia too,clearly,it was 120km/75miles

Re: stumtiger (German)

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 8:36 am
by samuelch
Both speed is same in wiki (40km/h). 120km is the operational range. Sturmtiger armament max range is 6,000m.

Re: stumtiger (German)

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 4:33 am
by Belfry777
Guys remember that Wikipedia is a no, no for info generally speaking. I recommend tank encyclopedia but for this case the link below should serve well, also the range of the Stumtiger is 120 km 75miles.

Link: https://www.google.com/amp/www.tanks-en ... r.php/amp/

Re: stumtiger (German)

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 4:47 am
by makazuwr32
That is operating range. There was no units which can shoot for 120 kilometers.

Re: stumtiger (German)

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 8:51 am
by Ayush Tiwari
Logically yes.120km would have been to too much....

Re: stumtiger (German)

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 5:10 am
by Belfry777
sorry I meant that it could travel that far.

Re: stumtiger (German)

Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 9:18 am
by Ayush Tiwari
Wait......Is the same thing?(Combat Range And Operational Range)
Sorry,I am a little short of knowledge when it comes to tanks of ww2

Re: stumtiger (German)

Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 10:20 am
by makazuwr32
Combat range - distance of shooting.
Operating range - distance of movement on its own.

Stumtiger has 120km operating range means that it can travel 120km on one fueling.
Max shooting (in reality) distance of this was 3500 meters - its combat range.

Re: stumtiger (German)

Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 11:26 pm
by Belfry777
True, so we just need JSON.

Re: stumtiger (German)

Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 5:47 am
by Stratego (dev)
cool, Belfry would u rtry making it?

Re: stumtiger (German)

Posted: Sun May 27, 2018 3:04 am
by Belfry777
Yes sir! I would be honoured to do JSON.

Re: stumtiger (German)

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 2:49 am
by Ayush Tiwari
Justice Done!

Re: stumtiger (German)

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:38 pm
by Belfry777
Dev! I have the JSON made to fullest extent of what I can do. Please find fault with it!