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Only Light Tanks from Tcs

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:55 pm
by samuelch
Medium tanks and heavy tanks will be removed from tcs. Only light tanks can be produced there.

Re: Only Light Tanks from Tcs

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 4:50 pm
by makazuwr32
Personally i like this idea:
1. You can't spam medium and heavy tanks from tc and need to rely on infantries and other units from them.
2. Because of harder access to them they will be a bit more late in games and making them from one side more viable, while at the same time more costly (less places to produce them = each unit is much more costly) and you will be forced to play a bit more careful with them.
This way they'll become like Ettins/Elven dragons/Olog Hais from AoF = powerful against tc units, costly.

Buildings' Unit Production

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 12:04 pm
by Prof_GamerARCHIVED
I suggest making cities only be able to produce infantry, factories ground vehicles and airfields aircraft. I dont see why cities can build every unit in the game. Ive been also having issues making maps because of this.

Re: Buildings' Unit Production

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 12:36 pm
by samuelch
How about infantries, vehicles, light tanks, and ships? Planes, medium tanks, tank destroyer, and heavy tanks have their own factories.

Re: Buildings' Unit Production

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 12:49 pm
by Prof_GamerARCHIVED
Yes!

Re: Buildings' Unit Production

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 12:51 pm
by Prof_GamerARCHIVED
I just want players and AI not to be able to make all units in my maps, but cities just give them the chance to make planes or heavy tanks, while i dont want them to have that oppurtunity.

Re: Buildings' Unit Production

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 5:00 pm
by Stratego (dev)
there is a trigger option already

Re: Buildings' Unit Production

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 6:07 pm
by Belfry777
This idea is a good one and a realistic one, I am for it!

Re: Buildings' Unit Production

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 7:44 pm
by makazuwr32
so do i:
1. all producing buildings will be much more costly just because you can't build everything in tc's
2. in reality was similar thing at least in USSR: in cities were usually factories for vehicles and light tanks as well as places to at least teach something volunteers.
Most factories were near cities but not in them.

Re: Only Light Tanks from Tcs

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 7:53 pm
by Belfry777
yes light tanks are good for tc's only, this makes the player have to make "tank factory's" more important.

Re: Buildings' Unit Production

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 7:54 pm
by Belfry777
So when can we get this in!

Re: Buildings' Unit Production

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 9:35 pm
by Prof_GamerARCHIVED
This probably needs coding, so i guess stratego?

Re: Buildings' Unit Production

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 10:39 pm
by Stratego (dev)
(merged the similar topics)

a tc must be valuable, so we must not remove everything.


my suggestion is to remove
- heavy tanks,
- and planes,
- and ships,

nothing else.

however ai will be more dumb, if he accidentally not built an airfield it will never produce planes...
so i suggest allowing some simple plane and ships too

Re: Buildings' Unit Production

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:08 am
by Belfry777
yes I think this is right, ships and heavy tanks are something of a specialty not for simple minded town foke.

Re: Buildings' Unit Production

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 4:11 am
by Puss_in_Boots
Simple Planes
viewtopic.php?f=198&t=4239

Transport ships would work fine for cities.

Re: Buildings' Unit Production

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:06 am
by Prof_GamerARCHIVED
Yeah please remove heavy tanks, ships and planes from cities.

Re: Buildings' Unit Production

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:06 am
by Prof_GamerARCHIVED
Yeah please remove heavy tanks, ships and planes from the cities production menu.

Re: Buildings' Unit Production

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:15 pm
by samuelch
How about medium tanks too?
viewtopic.php?f=58&t=5415 or this will work too.

Re: Buildings' Unit Production

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:09 am
by Belfry777
I think medium tanks are still good for Towns.

Re: Buildings' Unit Production

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:07 am
by Stratego (dev)
ok, i have removed
- battleships n carriers
- heavy tanks

i do not dare to remove more, the ai would be very weak than.

Re: Buildings' Unit Production

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 9:04 am
by samuelch
I play a lot of random games against AI to test many stuff. I see that AIs rarely train medium tanks or light tanks from the tcs, so removing the medium tanks from tcs is a good idea. The AI only train light tanks when I use many infantries. So if medium tanks disappear from tcs, I will have more infantries, guns, transport, and light tanks.

Re: Buildings' Unit Production

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:28 pm
by Stratego (dev)
I talked about ships n planes,

i have not planned to remove medium tanks too.

Re: Buildings' Unit Production

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 4:53 pm
by Belfry777
Nice thought samuluch, but I think this is far enough.

Re: Buildings' Unit Production

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:05 pm
by Prof_GamerARCHIVED
Please remove planes too

Re: Buildings' Unit Production

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 10:58 pm
by Belfry777
we can't, but all new planes can and will only be able to be produced in airports.

Re: Buildings' Unit Production

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:06 pm
by Prof_GamerARCHIVED
It makes no sense for aircraft to be produced at cities.

Re: Buildings' Unit Production

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 6:28 pm
by Belfry777
True, but some towns did especially in ww1, bombers should be removed those are a bit big for small towns, but like ford the car dealer they were in missigan and they make tanks and others make planes.

Re: Buildings' Unit Production

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 8:31 pm
by Stratego (dev)
it is nothing wrong to build anything in towns, in reality even battleships could be built near towns.

look from other aspect: from gameplay aspect, that is the only that matters

Re: Buildings' Unit Production

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:15 pm
by Belfry777
Then this topic is implemented.

Re: Buildings' Unit Production

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:12 am
by General Brave
You can build some plane, some ships in towns. Unless we going to make two different TC: town, city.