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Gnomish inventors - subrace for dwarves

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 6:26 am
by makazuwr32
Gnomes are technologically more crazy and advanced than dwarves but before war they lived separately. In war they are mobilized as well now.

What they will have:
1. Golems (mechanical ones).
2. Air units; both zeppelins are moved here from main body of dwarven race.
3. Siege (superior to dwarven one).
4. Naval (superior to dwarven one).
5. Some land-moving fortified self defending moving fortress.
6. Support casters who can heal mechanical units, support your buildings and curse enemy ones.

Procs (+):
Mechanical units all are unaffected by many enemy spells;
Air units & air transport;
Superior siege units (even better in terms of damage than trebushet with higher speed and health but also with lower range);
Unique casters who can heal mechanical units and buildings, support them or instead debuff enemy buildings;

Cons (--):
All units are costly (4+ turns cost all);
Needs to be researched first;
Need separate buildings;
All units are producable only in factories/mega buildings;
All units are unaffected at all by dwarven blacksmith upgrades and they have their own line of upgrades (alas some of units are affected by gunpowder upgrades);
Mechanical units are unaffected by runes and support spells as well;
Many mechanical units are vurable to siege killers;
Some of their land units can't be transported via their zeppelin carrier.

Re: Gnomish inventors - subrace for dwarves

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 6:28 am
by makazuwr32
Placeholder post 1.

Re: Gnomish inventors - subrace for dwarves

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 6:28 am
by makazuwr32
Placeholder post 2.

Re: Gnomish inventors - subrace for dwarves

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 6:30 am
by makazuwr32
About units themselves i need to get approvement by @Alexander82 before i will post/repost them here.

Re: Gnomish inventors - subrace for dwarves

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 1:09 am
by Tankhead
@makazuwr32
@Savra
Gnome Race Flag.png
What you think?

Re: Gnomish inventors - subrace for dwarves

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 1:43 am
by Tankhead
Updated
Gnome_Race_Flag.png

Re: Gnomish inventors - subrace for dwarves

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:09 am
by Savra
Looks nice.

Re: Gnomish inventors - subrace for dwarves

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:13 am
by makazuwr32
Not bad. Can be used as research image.

But still needs polishing.

Re: Gnomish inventors - subrace for dwarves

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:18 am
by Tankhead
Hmmm I was thinking flag/Banner
I don't think Alex said We had to use shields as a race flag

Re: Gnomish inventors - subrace for dwarves

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:19 am
by Tankhead
@Savra can you do the polishing?

Re: Gnomish inventors - subrace for dwarves

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:21 am
by Tankhead
Can this be the basic gnome?
Also Note I need to change title name

And yes it needs polishing

Re: Gnomish inventors - subrace for dwarves

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:25 am
by Savra
Needs longer hat.

Re: Gnomish inventors - subrace for dwarves

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:26 am
by Savra
Tankhead wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:18 am Hmmm I was thinking flag/Banner
I don't think Alex said We had to use shields as a race flag
I'll attempt it.

Re: Gnomish inventors - subrace for dwarves

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:55 am
by Tankhead
Basic builder?

Re: Gnomish inventors - subrace for dwarves

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:56 am
by Tankhead
Not the best but can be edited to look better

Re: Gnomish inventors - subrace for dwarves

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:17 am
by makazuwr32
Ugh. I don't like look of this "gnome". And also they won't have any "basic fighter" units because otherwise their stats would be worse than goblin pikers (basic one) and without upgrades.

Same is for worker.

And last thing i don't like look of them as garden gnomes with big hats. It will just look weird that garden gnomes (which are at most of size of cat) will fight with orcs.

Re: Gnomish inventors - subrace for dwarves

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:25 am
by Tankhead
Umm no
One of the biggest things for gnomes ARE they're hats, that's how you can tell a gnome off first hand.
And 2 they DO fight and are pretty good at it.

Please don't call them gnomes if your gonna have a different concept that doesn't fit gnomes

Re: Gnomish inventors - subrace for dwarves

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:28 am
by makazuwr32
Ugh.

That i will close this topic if you all imagine gnome with these stupid hats.
Their golems you think will also have these hats?

Dwarves:
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Gnomes:
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Re: Gnomish inventors - subrace for dwarves

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:32 am
by makazuwr32
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In normal fantasy lores gnomes NEVER have those stupid hats.
They look somewhat between dwarves and humans but with lesser height than dwarves. As you can see on the images i posted above.

Re: Gnomish inventors - subrace for dwarves

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:34 am
by Tankhead
Golems are golems
Gnomes are gnomes

They need that hat unless you wanna see even smaller ppl ( smaller than dwarves ) on the battlefield which would look too weird

Re: Gnomish inventors - subrace for dwarves

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:36 am
by makazuwr32
I don't want to see normal gnomes as fighters in the first place.
They are inventors, tinkers but not fighters.

Re: Gnomish inventors - subrace for dwarves

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:39 am
by Tankhead
Yea, I found some gnomes where they do just that
( tinkering )

Re: Gnomish inventors - subrace for dwarves

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:42 am
by makazuwr32
Yea.
They can backpacks with some crazy things but please no those stupid childish hats.

Re: Gnomish inventors - subrace for dwarves

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:01 am
by Tankhead
I don't really like the idea of them not having them.
Without hats now your looking a super midget People on the battlefield.
The hats atleast it will compensate for their height
Especially the way the art design is made in Aof

Re: Gnomish inventors - subrace for dwarves

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:03 am
by Tankhead
And the hats represented various of things.
They aren't childish

Re: Gnomish inventors - subrace for dwarves

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:47 pm
by Savra
Actually I've seen them with simple caps, they were ruffly the size of dwarves but with shorter, or no beards. Dwarves grow beards as children. So let's just stick with simple caps, like the peasant style.

Re: Gnomish inventors - subrace for dwarves

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:05 pm
by Tankhead
That's kool
I just don't want them to wear nothing at all

Re: Gnomish inventors - subrace for dwarves

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:18 pm
by Savra
Note the one thing they all have in common. The ears.

Re: Gnomish inventors - subrace for dwarves

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:41 pm
by Tankhead
Pixel art isn't gonna pick up ears
And are all those fan art?

Re: Gnomish inventors - subrace for dwarves

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:46 pm
by Savra
I think they are D&D.