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Chivalry and New Mercenary Hiring

Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:36 pm
by SirPat
Chivalry tech Can be invented in the Church, Cathedral, or tc

Gives the ability Pay mercenary to Templars hospitallers and Teutonic Knights and Starts with 5 charges To get a charge you need to Destroy the ff

Normal buildings- 1 charge
Fortified buildings- 2 charges
Mega buildings- 4 charges
And maybe
Loot ability for corpses or killing unit- 1 charge

1 charge is equivalent to 7 turns of "Hired effect"
No more vanishing effect and if Hired effect is gone thay transform into a Retired/Un hired version of them(different unit)

The Idea is that You will use this ability on only Pheasant's and mercenaries like Genoese

When Pheasant gets paid by Templar or Teutonic knight Pheasant will transform into crusader that have Hired effect 10/15 turns on them

If Crusaders destroyed any of the given buildings above multiply the amount charge by 7 turns giving the crusaders more turns of hired effect ( Idea: Crusader loots the building or Corpse to be rich and join for a longer time Like in real life)

If a Hospitaller pays a pheasant it becomes to a crusader archer same with mounted templar it will make the pheasant to a mounted crusader

If hired effect run out or turns to 0 crusader etc. Turns back to a pheasant

If mercenary like genoese ran out of hired effect he turns to a retired version of him (new unit)
Or
He gets an effect retired which makes his attack to 0 and 1 range making him unable to fight for you
Retired effect is forever unless paid again

Money couriers can also hire mercenaries by paying pheasants to be a crusaders or maybe a new mercenary like a body gaurd for money couriers

And Ariers known as Riches that upgrades crusaders to there upgrade

And that's what you call "Chivalry"
Thank you very much
-SirPat

Re: Chivalry and New Mercenary Hiring

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 7:47 pm
by StormSaint373
That's... Actually. . . Really good!

I like that idea!

Gives more purpose to cost 1 peasants.

Re: Chivalry and New Mercenary Hiring

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:38 pm
by SirPat
Thanks for reading and liking my idea

Do you think it has potential to be inplemented in the game
All we need left are
Images for the effects
Research cost
Json's
Ideas of the other forumers
And Devs magical powers to implement :lol:

Re: Chivalry and New Mercenary Hiring

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:12 am
by Endru1241
1. Right now we have no way to use any charges (there would have to be some bogus stat on unit).
2. That idea lacks costs.
Right no the only way to get new/improved units is factory buildings and workers (and anything from workers is hard to balance).
In this suggestion the only real cost is research. After that any religious order unit becomes "factory unit" (like worker), as they improve units virtually for free.
There are problems with that:
- templars, hospitallers and teutons are all pretty strong already. Wouldn't it be too much if they got another ability?
- they are all quite resilent (aside teutons, they are among units with greatest survival ability), while the only other "factory unit" (worker) is really weak and needs to be protected.
- it can be viewed as overly complicated, as it actually brings another resource to the game, but concentrated on single units (charges) and additionally limited time transformations, rules for unit upgrades. It would need to be simplified somehow.

Re: Chivalry and New Mercenary Hiring

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:11 pm
by makazuwr32
Well maybe making specific fighter + "worker" unit that requires this tech and is extremly costly (like 8-10 turns cost) maybe? Not for regular templars and other church units.

Re: Chivalry and New Mercenary Hiring

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:46 am
by Endru1241
It's still quite complicated.
And we lack couter, that could be used for charges.

Re: Chivalry and New Mercenary Hiring

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:06 am
by SirPat
About a cooldown if charge mechanic isnt possible