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Helenic pack

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:09 am
by L4cus
I was thinking on a kind of roman auxiliary mechanic for these units

2 turns random production units (just like auxiliaries), Hellenic Support (they are not the main army)
-Greek Shortbowman (almost a regular archer)
-Light Peltast (meele-specialist skirmisher)
-Light Hypaspist (quick anti-archer infantry)
-Militia horseman (weak light cavalry)
-Militia hoplite (good attack spearman, worse against mounted)

Words in "()" mean the unit role.


Also, it is able to train
# Polearm Wielder
-Hoplite (Heavy Armored Hoplite)
-Spike Militia
-Phalangite (Veteran Phalangite) (Royal Phalanx Pikeman)
-Spear Theurophoros (Armored Spear Theurophoros) (Spear Torakites)
-Epibatai (Elite Epibatai)
-Spartan Hoplite

#Melee Foot:
-Two Handed Thracian Falxman (Royal Thracian Falxman)
-Thracian Warrior (Thracian Theurophoros)
-Sword Theurophoros (Armored Sword Theurophoros) (Sword Torakites)
-Hypaspist (Veteran Hypaspist) (Argyraspide Hypaspist)
-Argyraspide Comander

#Mounted:
-Companion Cavalry
-Seleucid Tower Elephant (Seleucid Cataphract Elephant)
-Hippeus (Veteran Hippeus) (Royal Hippeus)
-Sarissophoroi (Heavy Sarissophoroi)
-Dimachae
-Cataphract

#Ranged:
-Gasthraphete (Armored Gasthraphete)
-Peltast (Heavy Peltast) (Royal Peltast)
-Toxotoi (Veteran Toxotoi) (Royal Toxotoi)
-Podromi
-Hippotoxatei
-Composite Persian Bowman

#Siege Machine:
-Oxybele
-Helopolis
-Ballista
-Lithoboloi

#Others:
-Sophist

#Ships:
-Penteconter (Fast Penteconter)
-Lembos (Veteran Crew Lembos) (Elite Crew Lembos)
-Hemiola (Big Hemiola)
-Fire Siphon Ship
-Bireme Admiral
-Oxibel Bireme

Units in "()" are upgrades


Techs:
-Disciplinary March
-Poliorkitiki: "πολιορκητική"
-Cartography
-Navigation
-Ballistics
-Reach
-Philip II's tactics
-Spartan training
-Themistocles Reforms
-Alexander's Reinforcements
-Torsion Engines

Some mercenaries
-Cretan archer
-Liburna
-Illytian Marine
-Agrianian Warrior
-Tessalian Horseman

Some of these units are already on topics.
Here the links

Hoplite and upgrade
https://www.androidutils.com/forum/view ... 596#p56756

Phalangite and upgrades( includes spike levy)
https://www.androidutils.com/forum/view ... 9ff5439596

Companion cavalry
https://www.androidutils.com/forum/view ... 9ff5439596

Thracian phalxman
https://www.androidutils.com/forum/view ... 4909489283

Hypaspist and upgrade
https://www.androidutils.com/forum/view ... 9f694b6939

Seleucid Armored Elephant
https://www.androidutils.com/forum/view ... 9f694b6939

Cretan archer
https://www.androidutils.com/forum/view ... 4909489283

Liburna and Illyrian Marine
https://www.androidutils.com/forum/view ... 549#p96353

Some of them aren't originally my ideas...

Re: Helenic pack

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 12:43 am
by L4cus
Some ideas for 2 turns random units

Light Hellenic Support

Cost 2

Greek Shortbowman
Hp 10
Attack 6
Range 4
Armor 0/0
Speed 3
Sight 5
+50% v light and medium foot melee, flying


Light Peltast
Hp 11
Attack 4
Range 1
Armor 0/2
Speed 4
Sight 5
Actions/turn 2
+50% v archer, light foot melee

Ability: trow javelin
Power 6
Range 3
Coldown 1 turn


Light Hypaspist
Hp 17
Attack 7
Range 1
Armor 0/1
Speed 4
Sight 4
+25% v light foot melee, structures
+50% v archer, siege machine


Militia Hoplite
Hp 16
Attack 5
Range 1
Armor 1/0
Speed 3
Sight 3
+50% v archers
+ 100% v mounted
+350% v elephants


Militia horseman
Hp 14
Attack 4
Range 1
Armor 0/0
Speed 6
Sight 6
+50% v light foot melee, siege machine
+100% v ranged

Re: Helenic pack

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:33 pm
by Morningwarrior
Much rich content,deserves more debates

Re: Helenic pack

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:37 am
by Hyuhjhih
L4cus wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 12:43 am Militia Hoplite
Hp 16
Attack 5
Range 1
Armor 1/0
Speed 3
Sight 3
+50% v archers
+ 100% v mounted
+350% v elephants
This could be a light version of spartan hoplite than a pike man.

Re: Helenic pack

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:38 am
by Morningwarrior
Hyuhjhih wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:37 am
L4cus wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 12:43 am Militia Hoplite
Hp 16
Attack 5
Range 1
Armor 1/0
Speed 3
Sight 3
+50% v archers
+ 100% v mounted
+350% v elephants
This could be a light version of spartan hoplite than a pike man.
Is great balanced

Re: Helenic pack

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:41 am
by Hyuhjhih
Morningwarrior wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:38 am
Hyuhjhih wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:37 am
L4cus wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 12:43 am militia Hoplite
Hp 16
Attack 5
Range 1
Armor 1/0
Speed 3
Sight 3
+ 350% structures
+ 100% light foot
+200% v siege
This could be a light version of spartan hoplite than a pike man.
Is great balanced

Re: Helenic pack

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:44 am
by Morningwarrior
Hellenic suport is pack for weak units,now,HELLENIC ELITE SUPORT is composed to the powerful units mensioned in the pack

Re: Helenic pack

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:45 am
by Hyuhjhih
L4cus wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 12:43 am Greek Shortbowman
Hp 10
Attack 6
Range 4
Armor 0/0
Speed 3
Sight 5
+50% v light and medium foot melee, flying
This is the most powerful one among the pack as the domedrai in roman aux. So attack 》4

Re: Helenic pack

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:47 am
by Hyuhjhih
And factory ?

Re: Helenic pack

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:54 am
by Morningwarrior
Maybe be added in hellenic quarters,can be added thogether.
Hp:35
Def:3/5
Sight:4
Mend bonus:-25%
Construction bonus:35%

Re: Helenic pack

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:57 am
by L4cus
Hyuhjhih wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:45 am
L4cus wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 12:43 am Greek Shortbowman
Hp 10
Attack 6
Range 4
Armor 0/0
Speed 3
Sight 5
+50% v light and medium foot melee, flying
This is the most powerful one among the pack as the domedrai in roman aux. So attack 》4
it was supossed to be a powerfull archer but with shorter range...btw idk if it would be affected by blacksmith techs
and compared to archer: they have the same cost, but this one have less hp and power...

Re: Helenic pack

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:01 am
by Morningwarrior
L4cus wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:57 am
Hyuhjhih wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:45 am
L4cus wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 12:43 am Greek Shortbowman
Hp 10
Attack 6
Range 4
Armor 0/0
Speed 3
Sight 5
+50% v light and medium foot melee, flying
This is the most powerful one among the pack as the domedrai in roman aux. So attack 》4
it was supossed to be a powerfull archer but with shorter range...btw idk if it would be affected by blacksmith techs
and compared to archer: they have the same cost, but this one have less hp and power...
No the hellenic units not will affected by blacksmith tech.

Re: Helenic pack

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:25 am
by L4cus
i dont play aos from too long... so idk what units have been included, maybe some of these...

Re: Helenic pack

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:31 am
by Morningwarrior
No,they not excluse from the game,we are debating to add this units