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Ships
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:36 pm
by L4cus
Cog
Fusta
Galliot
galley
Galeas
Galleon
Naus
Caravel=)Square Rigged Caravel
Barque
Sloop
Fluyt
Schooner
Brig
Carrack
Barquentine
Frigate
Ironclad
If u have an idea about how upgrades should be, then post it
We need to focus on basic ships: galley, galeas, galleon, cog.
Re: Ships
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 7:05 pm
by Squirrel5555
lol i lied
I made an image for the galiot.
I think once later techs/time periods are unlocked it will have an upgrade that makes it slightly larger and armed with light cannons as that is how the Dutch and other navies ended up arming them
Re: Ships
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 7:17 pm
by Squirrel5555
By the way DreJaDe, can you resize some of the ships you have made, especially the galley and galleass, as right now they are all the same size as the galleon, while galleys were actually quite small. Maybe give them a more distinct shape too?
Also i attach a different version of the galiot
Re: Ships
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 7:46 pm
by L4cus
I cant see the differences
Also, thats a good idea. Drejade we count on u
Re: Ships
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 7:52 pm
by Squirrel5555
The difference is just with the oars lol, i dont know which looks better
Re: Ships
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 7:56 pm
by L4cus
The 2nd one
They dont need to have great details. We can think on it later
Re: Ships
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:34 pm
by Squirrel5555
Made more minor changes lol
Changed some more
Re: Ships
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:18 pm
by DreJaDe
Squirrel5555 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 7:17 pm
By the way DreJaDe, can you resize some of the ships you have made, especially the galley and galleass, as right now they are all the same size as the galleon, while galleys were actually quite small. Maybe give them a more distinct shape too?
Also a different version of the galiot
LOL, yes of course.
My problem about is the way to do it but i'll try thanks.
Re: Ships
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:06 pm
by DreJaDe
Guys, I searched some things and I found out that many of English ships are Carracks and almost no Galleys.
Should we just remove the Galley from the British?
Re: Ships
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:08 pm
by Squirrel5555
Galleys and galleasses were mainly used in the mediterranean and american colonies while galiots were used in northern europe quite a bit
Re: Ships
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:10 pm
by DreJaDe
Squirrel5555 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:08 pm
Galleys and galleasses were mainly used in the mediterranean and american colonies while galiots were used in northern europe quite a bit
So about the question and suggestion?
Re: Ships
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:18 pm
by L4cus
Just ignore it for now
When we get another faction then we can give those ships to it, and rearrenge britain.
Britain wont be historically correct for a while. It will be the base for others factions
Re: Ships
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:07 pm
by DreJaDe
Made a carrack from the cog. I made it bigger but i don't know if it looked bigger. Also making it bigger is impossible unless a redo which is not available for me. LOL
Pls give some thoughts.
Re: Ships
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:18 pm
by Squirrel5555
Nice
What about making the cog smaller, its quite massive now lol, it should probably fit in 64x64 like galiot
Re: Ships
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:00 am
by Squirrel5555
If you dont mind DreJaDe, id like to try make images for some more ships

Re: Ships
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:07 am
by DreJaDe
Squirrel5555 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:00 am
If you dont mind DreJaDe, id like to try make images for some more ships
Well of course yes.
Also, if I don't have the reference drawing I can't draw which you can do.
I actually just draw what I want.
Re: Ships
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:04 am
by DreJaDe
Well, here's the remake of "The Cog".
I'm quite proud of it since it's an original and not taken from existing unit images.
Here it is 'HMS COG 2"!!
Yey
Re: Ships
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:09 am
by L4cus
Looks great
I'll post stats soon for adding to the list
Re: Ships
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:07 am
by Squirrel5555
Beautiful!

Re: Ships
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:37 pm
by Squirrel5555
Ok i made final (i hope) improvements to the galiot and made an image for the galley that is more to scale.
im happy with the galley, but let me know your thoughts
Re: Ships
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 3:23 pm
by Squirrel5555
Ill also do galleass, light frigate and frigate over the next few days
Re: Ships
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:02 pm
by L4cus
Now, we need to define the role of the ships for make stats
-cog: no attack, god carry capacity, medium speed
-galleot: few qttack power, small carty capacity, medium speed
-galey: galleot upgrade
-galleas: good attack, no carry cpacity, good speed
-carrack: high attack, small carry capacity, slow
-galleon: carrack upgrade
Galeas "evolve" (its a pokemon) into frigate or a variant
Do u agree, guys?
Also, what about caravels?
Re: Ships
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:05 pm
by L4cus
Squirrel5555 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:37 pm
Ok i made final (i hope) improvements to the galiot and made an image for the galley that is more to scale.
im happy with the galley, but let me know your thoughts
I like these images. Thanks squirrel
Maybe a small flag on the front for faction differentiation
Re: Ships
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:27 pm
by Squirrel5555
Ok ill add flags
I agree with those roles.
But here is more complete upgrade trees:
Cog can have a tech 'large holds'? Increases carry capacity
Galiot -> Galley -> light frigate
Galleass -> Frigate -> ???
Carrack -> Galleon -> ship of the line
Caravel is for super fast exploration and a large line of sight i guess. I dont know about the upgrades for it.
Re: Ships
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:43 pm
by L4cus
I like the first line
For frigate, its upgrade could be ironclad frigate
I think ship of the line should be another unit, appart of anyother. But ur idea is great too. It can wait...
Re: Ships
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 6:12 pm
by DreJaDe
I know I'm kinda just being hopeful with this but, can the people inside the Cog attack?
Re: Ships
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 6:39 pm
by L4cus
Like the aos viking longship?
I wonder...
Re: Ships
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 6:40 pm
by Squirrel5555
Here they are, with English/Genoese flag, as you requested.
Im not sure if units in cog should be able to attack, sounds like something a more raid oriented boat should have as an ability, as cog is mainly transport.
Ironclad might be a good idea! And sure, ship of the line can be its own unit

Re: Ships
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:24 pm
by L4cus
They look great. They will be definitive sprites for alpha version
About attacking from cog...i was tinking on sailors, marines and almirant. These units should be able, the others no. Also, sailors and marines can take enemy ships
But it can wait. Need to focus on priorites
Re: Ships
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 8:00 pm
by Squirrel5555
Good idea with the marines! I like it, but lets focus on basics first
