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Teutonic knights reskin IMPLEMENTED

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 9:17 am
by SirPat
For the foot version
Reskin the hemet and maybe give it the horns
And add a cross on the chest

For the mounted version
Increase the size of the sword, shield and head and give chest a cross and Ive noticed that the only ones that wear the yellow cross was maybe some kind of hegher ranking unit with a different helmet top piece it looked like 2 horns connected together by a circle and the hockmeister and I couldnt find any painting of a yellow cross on a horse so maybe remove the yellow cross and just give the yellow cross to the komtur and o the hochmeister if it gets added

For the Lancer
Give it a Flag on its weapon the flag of the teutonic order

For the komtur
Maybe the yellow cross on shield and the horns with a circle connecting the horns together.
Wait actually the komtur have a flag so ill be editing that

If you guys cant make I can make but I dont have a copy of the teutons so please send here the imgs PLEASEEE :D so I can Edit

Re: Teutonic knights reskin

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:53 pm
by Squirrel5555
Now that you mention it, i feel like editing some of them myself.
For the yellow cross only being for higher ranking individuals, the mounted knights WOULD be the high ranking individuals of the order. When someone thinks of Teutonic Order they think of the famous heavy cavalry only, however they also had many squires, halbbruders and other ranks.

If you want to edit the images yourself they are all on the original thread

Re: Teutonic knights reskin

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 10:34 am
by SirPat
Yeah exactly and I didnt thought of that Idea to take it form its thread :lol: silly me

Re: Teutonic knights reskin

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 1:53 pm
by Squirrel5555
Reskin for teutonic knights

I have moved them here from skin thread, i changed my mind and think they should just be a complete reskin because the more i look st my original versions the more my eyes hurt :lol: , thanks
@Stratego (dev)

Re: Teutonic knights reskin

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:37 pm
by SirPat
Ill post my edits
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Re: Teutonic knights reskin

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:55 pm
by Stratego (dev)
i am confused, is it a skin or a rework of current images of teutons?

if rework please find Endru as he needs to accept.

Re: Teutonic knights reskin

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 4:00 pm
by Squirrel5555
Ok thanks, it is a rework as im not happy at all with my original images in the game, though i havent seen Endru posting in a while :D

@Endru1241

He was last on 15 days ago apparently, on the 10th

Re: Teutonic knights reskin

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 7:26 pm
by Squirrel5555
Here are the versions with the visor down, im not sure which look better, the ones with visor up or visor down?

Maybe the visor down version can be the rework of current teutons, and the visor up can be a skin for it

Re: Teutonic knights reskin

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:00 am
by SirPat
Yeah forget my post on the skinset!
ITS GONNA BE A RESKIN 8-)
Squirrel I like those Imgs
Were gonna reskin the teutons and maybe addd skins like for example
In game the Teuton lancer will have the visor down but you can buy a skin which has a visor up, itll cost 1 gem :lol:

Re: Teutonic knights reskin

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 6:31 pm
by Endru1241
I am confused - why Hochmeister again?
Original idea was already implemented as Komtur, because Hochmeister - Grand Master of Teutonic Order is the title of 1 person, so either we start with unique units, make it map editor only or ignore it completely.
Also there is too less of a difference between komtur and lancer images - they have to be distinguishable in one look.
I think flag should be reserved for leaders and lancer should have visibly different helmet decorations.

There is also an idea - current teuton 3 turn foot unit is a mix between medium and heavy infantry. It doesn't exactly fit knight-brothers (well, maybe younger ones). It may be more like servant fighter representation.


Images do look great though.

Re: Teutonic knights reskin

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 7:13 pm
by SirPat
Well the Hochmeister wasnt really gonna be added I just Tested it out :lol: hehe

Re: Teutonic knights reskin

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:33 pm
by Squirrel5555
Welcome back Endru :D
Okay I took away the lancers plumage and flag, and changed komtur's flag to be extra special, courtesy of Sir Pat(hope you don't mind I used your flag design :) ), so I hope they are better now.
As for teuton knight I just made him more plain all round, fits better with the other teutonic units I think

I like where the 3 turn teuton is right now stat wise, he seems quite balanced to me, though I personally nearly never use his conversion ability, as it seems to have limited application. Sad you can only create him in castles and such, as people prefer to spam trebuchets :D

edit: ignore the komtur with visor up, attached by accident

Re: Teutonic knights reskin

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 11:18 pm
by Squirrel5555
:lol: I have recieved a message from the future, that your first criticism upon seeing the new lancer is that he has no team colour, so i present two options :D

I really like the plume, so I keep this option but without the flag, however I understand if it is too similar to komtur

And a version without a plume, but a streamer on the lance so there is more team colour in the image

Or maybe you can try and create a version of it, if these do not suit you

Re: Teutonic knights reskin

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 12:18 pm
by SirPat
Ofcourse I dont mind :D

Re: Teutonic knights reskin

Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 6:16 pm
by Squirrel5555
@Endru1241 any update on whether these are ready? Thanks :D

Re: Teutonic knights reskin

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 10:23 am
by Endru1241
First I need to ask to be sure to put them in the pack - the defaults should be e.g. "Teutonic Lancer HO visor down, plain.png", "Komtur HO vizor down.png", "Teutonic Knight HO.png" ?
Because I saw visor up versions in the skins, right?

Re: Teutonic knights reskin

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 1:22 pm
by Squirrel5555
Yep those are the ones, thanks

Re: Teutonic knights reskin

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 1:48 pm
by StormSaint373
Perhaps a bit more meat on the lances? Rn, 1 pixel seems too frail.

Re: Teutonic knights reskin

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 4:20 pm
by Squirrel5555
Ok, here is meaty version as requested, @StormSaint373 @Endru1241

Re: Teutonic knights reskin

Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 2:41 pm
by StormSaint373
Much better!

Re: Teutonic knights reskin

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 4:36 pm
by Squirrel5555
So they are ready?

Re: Teutonic knights reskin

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 8:32 am
by Endru1241
OK. I'm replacing Komtur image, but on the one with thinner flagpole.
On lancer I added some team colors and changed the shape of the flag.

Re: Teutonic knights reskin

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 10:59 pm
by Squirrel5555
These are ready and approved :D
Ever going to make it into a pack? :lol:

Re: Teutonic knights reskin

Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 9:25 am
by Endru1241
They are in the proceedings.
I cannot promise anything about the date - recently it gets me much time to finish the pack.

Re: Teutonic knights reskin

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 9:43 am
by Squirrel5555
Can I change them slighlty again. There are some inconsistencies with their lances I would like to sort out, among other things. It would be in a couple days though, when I get back.

Re: Teutonic knights reskin

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 9:57 am
by Badnorth
Hi , is teuton foot knight gonna get redesigned?
( even though I dont use them )He looks a bit off from other teutons .

Re: Teutonic knights reskin

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 9:59 am
by Badnorth
Sirpat's snakhorn would fit as the new one.

Re: Teutonic knights reskin

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 10:15 am
by Squirrel5555
I like his basic look, I was more talking about the mounted ones.

Re: Teutonic knights reskin

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 11:12 am
by Badnorth
The current ingame teutonic knights helmet is simple looking and inaccurate .
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Re: Teutonic knights reskin

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 11:31 am
by Squirrel5555
Definitely not "inaccurate", just the great helm you use an example is the most famous.