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Antlion Artillery IMPLEMENTED

Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 4:05 pm
by noaharts
There like Artillery cannons they move by 1 space and has a range of 6 there good at sherding medium armor. they can also borrow underground.
While underground they cant attack and sight decrease to one and stealth.
When unborrow they return too there artillery mod but it uses all its moves.

Re: Antlion Artillery

Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 6:13 am
by Puss_in_Boots
I can see this idea coming from Terraria. In fact, I like it. :)

Re: Antlion Artillery

Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 6:46 am
by noaharts
I was thinking there attacks are mixtures of rock,mucus, sand and other metal parts

When borrow mod any enemy unit cross its path it will reveal the hole like a mine in aow and when underground there armor increases.

Re: Antlion Artillery

Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 3:09 pm
by Midonik
I quite like the idea (especially since it's a cool way to give insectoids physical damaging artillery - something we discussed on Discord earlier), but I have one big problem with it, and that's the appearance - can you describe/use a reference picture for how it's supposed to look?

I would also keep the range at 5.

Re: Antlion Artillery

Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 3:29 pm
by noaharts
Well its stick out its head and uses in mouth to attack and go underground too hide

https://www.google.com/search?q=antlion ... AHoECAAQAw

Re: Antlion Artillery

Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 3:36 pm
by Midonik
Oh I see. Yea this will work, we will probably make it mechanical tho.

Re: Antlion Artillery

Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 3:48 pm
by noaharts
:)
Im okay with as long as i can help

Re: Antlion Artillery

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 10:17 am
by Typhoon
Antlion could perhaps be whole new set of units burrowing underground. Idea is quite unique for artillery but thats thats for the better.

Re: Antlion Artillery

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:14 am
by Midonik
Hm, as for stats:
Cost: 4
Hp: 28
Armor physical/energy: 2/1
Attack: 12 (physical)
Miss chance: 2% (so it has 10% miss chance on 5 speed vehicles)
Aoe: 1
Actions: 1
Range and sight: 5
Minimal range: 2
Speed: 1
Bonus: 100% buildings, destroyers and submarines, 200% to cruisers and carriers
Ability: Burrow - transform into the burrowed form
Built in tc and bug den
Burrowed form:
Same stats, expect no attack, 0 range, 1 sight, 0 speed, stealth, + 2/1 armor. Can resurface at cost of all actions and movement.
Mechanical category
So it's a much slower human rocket artillery with a bit more range. Instead of 2 actions it has double the power. It loses the bonus to infantry (keeps the one to buildings), but instead it has little miss chance so it can hit even vehicles (orginal post said something about this being AT?, but I don't think an high range AT artillery is necessarily a good idea). It is also more tanky, and obviously has the ability to burrow and gains stealth and armor at cost of basically all combat capabilities. This could be able to destroy human rocket artilleries, assuming it manages to land a few hits, but it will never be as effective against infantry units.

Re: Antlion Artillery WAITING IMAGE

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:45 am
by Anchar
The question is, how can foot units hit the underground? Maybe you should give invulnerability and limit the time spent underground with a timer? Also would like to know your opinion on what the underground version should look like? And also it has to be completely mechanical, completely biological, or 50-50?

Re: Antlion Artillery WAITING IMAGE

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 8:52 am
by Midonik
Supposedly, some part of it stays out of the ground even when underground, similarly to a normal antlion.


Please make it 100% mechanical.

Re: Antlion Artillery WAITING IMAGE

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:30 am
by Anchar
?

Re: Antlion Artillery WAITING IMAGE

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:42 am
by Midonik
Wouldn't it be easier to start with the not buried version?

It's not supposed to attack when underground, so the gun definitely shouldn't stick out.

Re: Antlion Artillery WAITING IMAGE

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:52 am
by Anchar
What do gun definitely shouldn't stick out? Do I need to remove the barrel or make it so that it is not underground?

Re: Antlion Artillery WAITING IMAGE

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 11:00 am
by Midonik
Question - is what you posted two versions of the buried form, or is the one with the gun the unburied form?

Re: Antlion Artillery WAITING IMAGE

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 11:07 am
by Anchar
These are both forms. The first is buried, the second is combat.

Re: Antlion Artillery WAITING IMAGE

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 11:15 am
by Midonik
OK, then, why is the combat form still buried in the ground a bit? Its supposed to move, so I think it would be best for it to be completely out of the ground.

Re: Antlion Artillery WAITING IMAGE

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:39 pm
by Anchar
?

Re: Antlion Artillery WAITING IMAGE

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:46 pm
by Midonik
I love the drill. Can you try to make the leg behind it a bit more visable? As is, it really seems to be standing on three legs.

Re: Antlion Artillery WAITING IMAGE

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:20 am
by Anchar
Updated.

Re: Antlion Artillery WAITING IMAGE

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 8:29 am
by Midonik
Yea this works

Re: Antlion Artillery READY

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:00 am
by Midonik
I've thought about this after putting it in, since this is a vehicle that isn't AI controlled, it needs some kind of a window for the crew to look where they are going and shooting.

Re: Antlion Artillery READY

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 1:41 pm
by Anchar
?

Re: Antlion Artillery READY

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:56 pm
by Midonik
That works