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AoF is deleted from google play?

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:26 pm
by Keshanius
I don't see age of fantasy in google play (in Russia), it was deleted?

Re: AoF is deleted from google play?

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:06 pm
by Stratego (dev)
it was removed by google for violating some rules - the reason is not clear for me - i asked them they have yet answered...

Re: AoF is deleted from google play?

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 7:25 am
by Tankhead
Sue if no response.


Although it may be cause of a copyright claim or something

Re: AoF is deleted from google play?

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 7:51 am
by Stratego (dev)
lol, sue google? lol :)

Re: AoF is deleted from google play?

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 7:58 am
by Badnorth
Tankhead wrote: Fri Jul 10, 2020 7:25 am Sue if no response.


Although it may be cause of a copyright claim or something
I think its because of the LOTR add-ons

Re: AoF is deleted from google play?

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:00 am
by Stratego (dev)
i dont think so.
as those were in for years more than 8 years imho.

Re: AoF is deleted from google play?

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:09 am
by Dagravian
Stratego (dev) wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:06 pm it was removed by google for violating some rules - the reason is not clear for me - i asked them they have yet answered...
Can you share what you received from them? Or you received those generic auto-replies?

Re: AoF is deleted from google play?

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:34 am
by Stratego (dev)
yes an autmatic email without anything about the specific problem.
Issue with your app
We were unable to verify your ownership or permission to use certain images or text included in your app's store listing (e.g. app title, icon, and/or developer name).
Violation of Impersonation policy
We don’t allow apps that use another app or entity’s brand, title, logo, or name in a manner that may result in misleading users.
but i received 4 hours ago an email from "Emily" that she will check it in detail - but giving no any information in that email :)

Re: AoF is deleted from google play?

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:36 am
by Badnorth
Keshanius wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:26 pm I don't see age of fantasy in google play (in Russia), it was deleted?
Mine too...it disappeared.

Re: AoF is deleted from google play?

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:32 am
by Tankhead
I mean you could Sue if they just decided to remove the app off the store and never provide a reason ( if they never do ).
May hit the jackpot.

But given this game it clearly has to be a copyright claim.

Re: AoF is deleted from google play?

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:41 am
by Dagravian
Well, i'm not so sure it was a copyright issue now from what that msg meant, but i have another thing in mind... it's just a guess, but it isn't bcz of this?

Image

I mean, the apps, outside the labels of playstore, all versions share the AOS name title, probably bcz they share part of the documentation between them... Some automatic system of the playstore found this issue there in the app when scanning the documentation and flagged out AOF as copy of AOS given its similarity... Which could result in the copy (AOF) being removed from the store as it carries AOS name on it.

So if this is really the case... Same could be applied in the case of AOW soon or later.

Re: AoF is deleted from google play?

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:57 am
by Stratego (dev)
jesus!
i never saw such - was it always like this? no one ever told me :(

Re: AoF is deleted from google play?

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:00 am
by Stratego (dev)
i refreshed the games list and i see it is now published.
pleaswe confirm.

i have yet received any explanation why it was removed and why it is re-activated now...

Re: AoF is deleted from google play?

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:17 am
by Badnorth
Its back

Re: AoF is deleted from google play?

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:44 pm
by Dagravian
Stratego (dev) wrote: Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:57 am jesus!
i never saw such - was it always like this? no one ever told me :(
As far as i remember, yes.

And for me it still doesn't show up in the playstore.

Re: AoF is deleted from google play?

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 5:02 pm
by Alexander82
Stratego (dev) wrote: Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:57 am jesus!
i never saw such - was it always like this? no one ever told me :(
Lol, I thought you knew that xD

Re: AoF is deleted from google play?

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 7:10 pm
by Stratego (dev)
gosh folks! :) noo! please never think of a problem that i know it unless it has a topic on forum !
(i hope there is no other old topic about this that is have not ever seen - lol :))


this bug is ridikulous!

Re: AoF is deleted from google play?

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 7:27 pm
by Stratego (dev)
please everyone experiencing this write here his "locale" so i can check the problem - thanks!
eg: "italy" so all apps appear in italian if they have translation for that.

i hope with "english" locale this problem does not exists.

thanks!

Re: AoF is deleted from google play?

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:51 am
by makazuwr32
It exists on Russian:
"Эпоха Стратегии" is used as local name for AoS, AoF and AoWW. In Gplay alas they all use english names.

Re: AoF is deleted from google play?

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 8:34 am
by Stratego (dev)
makazuwr32 wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:51 am It exists on Russian:
"Эпоха Стратегии" is used as local name for AoS, AoF and AoWW. In Gplay alas they all use english names.
thanks! do u have dev version of AOF and/or AOW?
as i have possible fix so we could test it.

Re: AoF is deleted from google play?

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:33 pm
by makazuwr32
I have aof dev, yes.

Re: AoF is deleted from google play?

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:53 am
by Stratego (dev)
ok, it is updated please check!
thanks!

Re: AoF is deleted from google play?

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 4:02 pm
by Stratego (dev)
@makazuwr32 have u had time to try? thanks!

Re: AoF is deleted from google play?

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 6:31 pm
by makazuwr32
yes now it is properly named.

Re: AoF is deleted from google play?

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 6:42 pm
by Stratego (dev)
cool! tanks! than all alternatives should look good now - please inform me if any is still buggy.

Re: AoF is deleted from google play?

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:51 pm
by Stratego (dev)
how sad it is... google can do anthing...
Hi all,

Thanks for contacting the Google Play team.

I see your app, Age of Fantasy (com.zts.ageoffantasy), was resubmitted earlier and has been approved.

During review, we were unable to verify your ownership or permission to use certain images or text included in your app's store listing (e.g. app title, icon, and/or developer name). If you have written documentation proving that you have permission to use a third party's intellectual property in your app or store listing (such as brand names, logos and graphic assets), you may reply to this email with verifiable documentation (PDF).

Please let me know if I can help with anything else.
Thanks!

Please tell me which asset was thought i have no permission, as i have permission to everything.
Please send me those assets, or asset names, texts or textID-s that was thought to be un-owned by me so i can reply with the verifiable document (if that was not eg. a free to use asset)

thanks!

daniel
Hi Daniel,

Thanks again for contacting the Google Play Team.

As much as I'd like to help, I’m not able to provide any more detail or a better answer to your question. In our previous email, I made sure to include all the information available to me.

Though please keep in mind, in the future, if you have proof of permission to use a 3rd party's intellectual property, you can submit it to our team in advance using this form. The link can also be found on your Store Listing page in the Full description section.

If you have a different question, please let me know.
Thanks for the answer!

So if i submit now everything i have on this form, than it will not be removed automatically ever? (Question1)

also i have proofs of
- non free things - here i can upload proofs (Clear, no question)
- also there are free things i use - i can only show the link where i got the (eg.) free images is that enough? (Question2)
- also i DO not have proofs on things OUR DEVELOPER TEAM MADE THEMSELVES (eg. unit arts) what proof i should post about these? how will you know it is mine? (Question3)


Sorry for being this needy about informations but this is what happened on this event:
- i had the app published for years without problems (i only added my own contents)
- suddenly it was removed by GooglePlay about a week ago
- i published (an already planned) update that only ADDED new assets to the game, so i HAVE NOT REMOVED anything from game.
- after this it gets accepted again....
->> so seems there was nothing ever in game violating anything...

that is why i asked for the asset/text that caused the problem, or violates any rules ...

Now i should ALWAYS be AFRAID that it will be removed again without reason (at least reason i will ever know...), should i? (Question4)

daniel
Hi Daniel,

Thanks for contacting the Google Play team.

Unfortunately I'm not able to comment on your requests. If you think your app is in compliance, please submit your app for another review. You may want to review the Developer Program Policies for additional policy guidance.

Thanks for your understanding and continued support.

Re: AoF is deleted from google play?

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:21 pm
by Savra
I'd say these might be the answer to the problem:
Squig rider: a unit from warhammer, so their might be some copyright issues.

Caragor rider: unit from shadow of war and shadow of mordor, it was made recently so it might have copyright issues. (If I remember correctly you have to wait 15 years for a copyright license to expire for something before you can use it, unless it's renewed in that time.)

Hamletback: it's from magic the gathering so it might have copyright issues.

Goblin cannon fodder: same as hamletback.

Zurgo helmsmasher: same as hamletback.

The phantoms tech books were edits of an existing image, but I did read the description before to make sure they were free to use, but I may have missed something.

I edited the dwarves techs except for the cannon upgrades which I made myself. But they were from the same sight that you already suggested was safe to use images from.

The loading images might be a problem too though, you might check there licence.

The units ones may not have been found out about till recently which is why it took so long or some disgruntled player might have said something to someone.

That's just my theory though.

Simple changes to units names though would fix the units problems and avoid the copyright restrictions. E.g. Uruk raider instead of caragor rider.

Re: AoF is deleted from google play?

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:24 pm
by Savra
AOF is showing up in my Google play store though when I search for it.

Re: AoF is deleted from google play?

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:40 pm
by Dagravian
Probably uruks should be renamed as black orcs or smt

Re: AoF is deleted from google play?

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:12 pm
by makazuwr32
Google politics are becoming weirder and weirder.