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Woad Spearman IMPLEMENTED
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 3:14 pm
by StormSaint373
A Spearman for the Celts/Woads. . .
Cost: 2
Hp: 12
Attack: 3
Range: 1
Armor: 0/0 (affected by warpaint)
Spd: 4
Action/Turn: 2
SR: 0
Re: Woad Spearman
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 4:01 pm
by Badnorth
I like this but the celts will need a barrack when they are many enough to not replace the existing units with similar uses e.g Spearmen,Voulgier
I guess celtic warcamp would be a good name.
Do you have any planned sprites?
Re: Woad Spearman
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 6:06 pm
by phoenixffyrnig
Given that the spear was a standard weapon for the Celts, I think his stats need boosting a bit.
I would be inclined to remove the second action too, it's not much use for a melee unit unless they have strong defence and decent HP
Increase to
Cost 3
HP 15
Attack 7
Armour 1/1 (it should be a big shield bearer - the archetypal oval Celtic shield - which would obviously slow it down to... )
Speed 3
A bespoke anti cav unit (which the Celts completely lack atm) with boni to suit.
Possibly with a legion training style boost to reflect shield wall?
Re: Woad Spearman
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 4:03 pm
by Endru1241
phoenixffyrnig wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 6:06 pm
Given that the spear was a standard weapon for the Celts, I think his stats need boosting a bit.
I would be inclined to remove the second action too, it's not much use for a melee unit unless they have strong defence and decent HP
Increase to
Cost 3
HP 15
Attack 7
Armour 1/1 (it should be a big shield bearer - the archetypal oval Celtic shield - which would obviously slow it down to... )
Speed 3
A bespoke anti cav unit (which the Celts completely lack atm) with boni to suit.
Possibly with a legion training style boost to reflect shield wall?
Spear was a standard weapon for most foot army units over all history, so it's not really a good argument.
But I am not eepecially against the idea.
Big shield wielders will all have bonus similar to hoplite once I add strategist building and all techs related to large scale formations, so it's not needed (we should focus only on balancing).
As for stats - assuming it would have bonuses scaled down to exact spearman damage vs mounted and more specific classes - it's perfectly viable.
StormSaint373 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 17, 2020 3:14 pm
A Spearman for the Celts/Woads. . .
Cost: 2
Hp: 12
Attack: 3
Range: 1
Armor: 0/0 (affected by warpaint)
Spd: 4
Action/Turn: 2
SR: 0
Cheap two attack anti-mounted would be a fine addition too. Of course with 4 speed it would have very limited bonuses - two attacks would have to overall deal about 16-18 damage vs heavy cavalry, so around 9-10 vs light (and all the other uncategorised mounted).
So, real question is which one fits better to celtic culture.
Re: Woad Spearman
Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 12:29 am
by Badnorth
I prefer 2 attacks.
Re: Woad Spearman
Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:38 am
by phoenixffyrnig
I think the double attack would reduce its effectiveness as anti-cav because it would be half dead after first counter.
Re: Woad Spearman
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:31 pm
by Badnorth
Then 1 action only. If it will focus on being an anti-cav.
Woad spearman.
Hope its adequate.
Re: Woad Spearman
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:21 pm
by Badnorth
Some improvements
Re: Woad Spearman
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:00 pm
by Badnorth
This can only be trained in celtic barracks right?
Or available to town centers too.