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Celtic unit : Woad raider

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:32 pm
by Badnorth
Unit description : Woad is a plant found in the British Isles from which a blue pigment can be extracted. Celtic warriors painted themselves with this pigment prior to battle to look more fearsome and unnerve their enemies. Celtic warriors had been raiding more developed areas of Britain and Europe since ancient times. The Scots, for example, were originally Irish raiders who took lands from the Picts in north Britain that became Scotland. When the English sought to conquer the Celts inhabiting Ireland, Wales, and Scotland during the Middle Ages, the Celts were at a great disadvantage against the English mounted knights. The Celts often turned to guerrilla tactics, raiding English settlements and withdrawing before English armies arrived. Raiders painted with woad devastated the borderlands. A renowned woad raider was William Wallace of Scotland who rampaged through Northern England for a decade.
Stats:
Trained at: Barracks
Cost: 4
Hp: 20
Att: 8
Spd: 4
Armor: 1/1
Sight: 4
Spell resist: 70%
Actions: 2
Active effects:
Low morale
Bonuses:
+50% Ranged
+50% light foot melee
+100% Siege machines
+100% Buildings
+120% Armored siege machines
+150% Fortifications
+700% Mega Buildings

A powerful celt who specializes at dominating buildings and siege machines and having the agility and speed that a normal armed soldier doesn't have. Raiding at its finest.

Re: Celtic unit : Woad raider

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:33 pm
by Badnorth
Affected by warpaint

Re: Celtic unit : Woad raider

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:44 pm
by Badnorth
Once the celts have 5 or 6 units they should have a separate training building.
Similar to Nordic hall.

Re: Celtic unit : Woad raider

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:46 pm
by Badnorth
I hope someone could give an opinion or so .

Re: Celtic unit : Woad raider

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:26 am
by SirPat
looks better as an upgrade and we should add a celtic auxiliary type of units

Re: Celtic unit : Woad raider

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:10 am
by Badnorth
hmm we still don't have the factory for the celts and what would the auxiliary be?

Re: Celtic unit : Woad raider

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:09 pm
by SirPat
you know just like spearman, axeman(not thrower), and archer but celtic style and affected by war paint and maybe renaming him to Celtic woad raider cause many of us dont know what is woad and would think its not close to celts

Re: Celtic unit : Woad raider

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 1:09 am
by Badnorth
Auxiliary is like giving slight military support from allied clans or something so maybe we could also have clan leaders or something to give buffs.
SirPat wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:09 pm maybe renaming him to Celtic woad raider cause many of us dont know what is woad and would think its not close to celts
Its on the unit description, it is a type of plant that the celts use to be warpaint. Celtic raiders who had woad covered in their bodies were a type of guerrilla of some sort.
A famous woad raider was William Wallace - idk who that is I only found it on google.

Re: Celtic unit : Woad raider

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:48 am
by SirPat
william wallace the scottish freedom fighter he is ingame find him at the map editor

Re: Celtic unit : Woad raider

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:18 am
by Badnorth
Yep, I know he looks strong, never used him though.
I mean I haven't researched anything about him except knowing - From google - that he is a Woad raider .

Re: Celtic unit : Woad raider

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:20 am
by Badnorth
Woad warriors are brave fighters - and mad. They disdain armour and most cloting, preffering to paint themselves with intricate and stylised magical designs in woad (a blue dye) to deflect enemy blows and missiles.

Re: Celtic unit : Woad raider

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:45 am
by Badnorth
A sprite with more warpaint, longer & wider swords etc.
So It may look more barbaric.

Re: Celtic unit : Woad raider

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:34 pm
by SirPat
Looks epic but I noticed he dont have bonus vs ligt inf so add that in his dmg would be useless when he dont have that bonus and how far is the low morale aura

Re: Celtic unit : Woad raider

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:10 am
by Badnorth
Why would he be useless?
Same as berserker I guess.

Im not completely sure.. mmh i'll just add 50% to light foot melee.

Re: Celtic unit : Woad raider

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 8:50 am
by SirPat
cause I wouldn't waste both of my attacks to destroy a light infantry unit like a maori warrior or celt he should have just have higher dmg and 1 attack if that happpens IMO and if he can dmg archers better why not light infantry and if he have no melee unit bonuses what unit can he fight heavy foot kills him medium foot can kill him light foot idk but celts can

Re: Celtic unit : Woad raider

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:01 am
by Badnorth
Updated

Re: Celtic unit : Woad raider

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:07 am
by Badnorth
I didn't add 1+ dmg since he can get that via warpaint.
I hope this doesn't be op.

Re: Celtic unit : Woad raider

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:15 am
by SirPat
well he's a 4 turn unit, It aint Op wait can he be affected by smiths? if not then good if yes then balancing Time

Re: Celtic unit : Woad raider

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:17 am
by SirPat
a zweihander deals more over all dmg than him cause zweihanders cost 3 turns and attacks 4 units at a time(splash)

Re: Celtic unit : Woad raider

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:17 am
by Badnorth
Not really that is compensated by warpaint.
Smith: 2+dmg 2/2+ Armor
Warpaint: 1+dmg 4+Hp
What do you think @Endru1241?

Re: Celtic unit : Woad raider

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:22 am
by SirPat
maybe give him smith armor upgrades lvl 1 not lvl 2
edited

Re: Celtic unit : Woad raider

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:23 am
by Badnorth
SirPat wrote: Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:17 am a zweihander deals more over all dmg than him cause zweihanders cost 3 turns and attacks 4 units at a time(splash)
Geez, we shouldn't compare units with different uses.
Maybe woad raider really should have 9 dmg
Or maybe not since he has low morale aura.

Re: Celtic unit : Woad raider

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:26 am
by Badnorth
this is a Woad raider with 9 damage with warpaint tech. What do you think?
Trained at: Barracks
Cost: 4
Hp: 24
Att: 10
Spd: 4
Armor: 1/1
Sight: 4
Spell resist: 70%
Actions: 2
Active effects:
Low morale
Bonuses:
+50% Ranged
+50% light foot melee
+100% Siege machines
+100% Buildings
+120% Armored siege machines
+150% Fortifications
+700% Mega Buildings

Re: Celtic unit : Woad raider

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:28 am
by SirPat
yeah thats enough cause thats 10 dmg twice then low morale

Re: Celtic unit : Woad raider

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:30 am
by SirPat
can I compare this to Voulgeir except for the anti mounted

Re: Celtic unit : Woad raider

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:31 am
by SirPat
yet this unit is still stronger cause of speed and low morale and resistance

Re: Celtic unit : Woad raider

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:35 am
by Badnorth
Yeah I think so too.
We should just wait a response from endru.

Re: Celtic unit : Woad raider

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:39 am
by SirPat
yeah we should wait.
A charging army of these would be hard to stop I think

Re: Celtic unit : Woad raider

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:44 am
by Badnorth
Yeah but they are weak in terms of health, so it can be easily defeated in a few hits or just one by - Poison buddies. I will make a campaign for the celts once I finish with the vikings.

Re: Celtic unit : Woad raider

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:22 pm
by Endru1241
Maybe just start it over.
Go to first steps.
What is this unit supposed to be?
Beacause all I see is a variation of highlander - both in flavour and stat attempts (except 2 attacks).