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Line Warfare

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:07 am
by samuelch
Make musket units having extra damage. Will start the feeling of charging against line infantry is like charging a wall

Re: Line Warfare

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:20 am
by Squirrel5555
At the beginning, they are meant to be weak. Once you invest and upgrade them to line infantry and so on they will be much more dominant

Re: Line Warfare

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:43 am
by L4cus
mmh, btw we will add officers spells for formations to buff and nerf some stats

Re: Line Warfare

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 2:36 am
by L4cus
oh right now i got some ideas:
1. formations will be an spell for officers
2. formations will be remobable with other formations
3. disoriented and artillery fire will remove some formations
4. broken status (i will be working on this eventually) will remove formations too
5. all formations have advantages and disadvantages on stats
6. all formations will last one turn, so killing officers will be very anoying, and some agents like assasain will be worth using

and some formations ideas:
-line
-square
-block

Re: Line Warfare

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 3:07 am
by Gral.Sturnn
Im glad this was brought to discussion

MMM. MMM
MOM. MOM
MMM. MMM
PPP
POP
PPP
MMM. MMM
MOM. MOM
MMM. MMM

P=pikemen
M=musketeers.

Each block should represent a 3x3 square of units to keep it simple each block should have their own bonnuses
in order for the formation to work there should be a officer in the middle (i propose).

Re: Line Warfare

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 3:13 am
by Gral.Sturnn
The pikemen are meant to be in the center and the musketeers in each corner

Re: Line Warfare

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:14 am
by L4cus
u mean tercios tactics?
that would very difficult, even impossible...
i dont mean its a bad idea, but it would be really really hard

Re: Line Warfare

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 5:39 am
by samuelch
Tercio as a unit is ok tho. Just pikeman with musket shot ability

Re: Line Warfare

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 8:13 am
by Maxbirykov2004
Gral.Sturnn wrote: Sun Sep 06, 2020 3:07 am Im glad this was brought to discussion

MMM. MMM
MOM. MOM
MMM. MMM
PPP
POP
PPP
MMM. MMM
MOM. MOM
MMM. MMM

P=pikemen
M=musketeers.
O=officer?

Each block should represent a 3x3 square of units to keep it simple each block should have their own bonnuses
in order for the formation to work there should be a officer in the middle (i propose).
Wow... but i agree with this...
L4cus wrote: Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:14 am u mean tercios tactics?
that would very difficult, even impossible...
i dont mean its a bad idea, but it would be really really hard
Well it might be good idea... But it's probably impossible (at least very hard)

Re: Line Warfare

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:07 am
by Squirrel5555
As others have said, hard if not impossible to implement, and annoying for the players to use

Re: Line Warfare

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 10:37 am
by samuelch
Simplified pike and shot unit could work. Pike unit with musket shot ability. Then officer can apply "tercio" ability on that unit only.

Re: Line Warfare

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:51 am
by Squirrel5555
Well, we want pikes and muskets to be separate units, but I guess some hybrids could exist. Of course, they would be weaker at both things than specialist units are.

Re: Line Warfare

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:34 pm
by L4cus
it could work, but it would be worse than pikemn dealing with cavalry, and would have less abilitypower
btw, formations could be unlockable with technologies