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Armoured spearman upgrades IMPLEMENTED
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 1:41 am
by Badnorth
Elite armoured spearman
+ 4 hp
+ 1/0 armor
+ 1 att
Veteran armoured spearman
+ 3 hp
+ 1/1 armor
+ 1 att
Research costs: 5
Btw I changed a couple things on armoured spearman, the team color on it isn't working so I refreshed it, I hope it works.
And somehow I hope I didn't make the stats op.
Re: Armoured spearman upgrades
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:38 am
by DreJaDe
In the documentaries ive watched it seems that the best form of shield is the kite shields so based on the that, i would suggest that the armor and maybe some changes on the shield appearancs design is enough. Or, maybe longer spear?
Re: Armoured spearman upgrades
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:44 am
by Badnorth
Longer spear: Spear is enough for me, it doesn't need to be long or else it'll turn to a pike.
Kite shield: I see.
Orig stats plus upgrades.
Hp: 18 (22) (25)
Att: 8 (9) (10)
Armor: 0/1 (1/1) (2/2)
Spd: 3
Sight: 4
Rng: 1
Bonuses:
100% Structures, siege machine, ships
150% Fortifications, armoured siege machine
700% Mega buildings
68% Mounted
104% Heavy cavalry slow
135% Medium cavalry, chariot melee
180% Heavy cavalry except slow
333% Elephants
Re: Armoured spearman upgrades
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:49 am
by Badnorth
Wait I forgot armoured spearman is affected by smith upgrades.
Is stats op?
Re: Armoured spearman upgrades
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 5:06 am
by Endru1241
Different.
The concept (idea of stormsaint) was - swordsman stats, but increased cost for spearman damage vs mounted units. I added a little extra p. armor.
So I would see stats as:
Hp: 18 (21) (23)
Att: 8 (11) (14)
Armor: 0/1 (0/2) (1/2)
Spd: 3
Sight: 4
Rng: 1
Bonuses:
100% Structures, siege machine, ships
150% Fortifications, armoured siege machine
700% Mega buildings
68% Mounted (+46%)(+34%)
104% Heavy cavalry slow (+82%)(+72%)
135% Medium cavalry, chariot melee (+110%)(+100%)
180% Heavy cavalry except slow (+146%)(+136%)
333% Elephants (+282%)(+265%)
Re: Armoured spearman upgrades
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:21 pm
by Morningwarrior
Endru1241 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 5:06 am
Different.
The concept (idea of stormsaint) was - swordsman stats, but increased cost for spearman damage vs mounted units. I added a little extra p. armor.
So I would see stats as:
Hp: 18 (21) (23)
Att: 8 (11) (14)
Armor: 0/1 (0/2) (1/2)
Spd: 3
Sight: 4
Rng: 1
Bonuses:
100% Structures, siege machine, ships
150% Fortifications, armoured siege machine
700% Mega buildings
68% Mounted (+46%)(+34%)
104% Heavy cavalry slow (+82%)(+72%)
135% Medium cavalry, chariot melee (+110%)(+100%)
180% Heavy cavalry except slow (+146%)(+136%)
333% Elephants (+282%)(+265%)
The dmg is very high for a spearmen
8-9-10 dmg for every upgrade is enough.
Re: Armoured spearman upgrades
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:28 am
by Badnorth
Morningwarrior wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:21 pm
The dmg is very high for a spearmen
8-9-10 dmg for every upgrade is enough.
Higher damage but has lower cavalry bonuses per upg.
Balanced as swordsman and spearman hybrid.
Re: Armoured spearman upgrades
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 6:05 pm
by Morningwarrior
QuadrupoleStrat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:28 am
Morningwarrior wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:21 pm
The dmg is very high for a spearmen
8-9-10 dmg for every upgrade is enough.
Higher damage but has lower cavalry bonuses per upg.
Balanced as swordsman and spearman hybrid.
Hmmmmm,I think the damage doesn't have to be like a man-at-arms
Re: Armoured spearman upgrades
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:34 pm
by Endru1241
Well, we can make it 8->10->12 and unify the bonuses to reach similar anti-mounted capabilities.
Increase in p.armor can allow that still within realm of balance.
Re: Armoured spearman upgrades
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 7:03 am
by Morningwarrior
Endru1241 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:34 pm
Well, we can make it 8->10->12 and unify the bonuses to reach similar anti-mounted capabilities.
Increase in p.armor can allow that still within realm of balance.
Haaha, you really got in my mind.
Re: Armoured spearman upgrades
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 7:03 am
by Morningwarrior
+3 of pierce armor?
Re: Armoured spearman upgrades
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:53 am
by Endru1241
No, those already stated in stats, so 1/2 or 2/2.
Re: Armoured spearman upgrades
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 5:25 pm
by Morningwarrior
Oh,looks more balanced than i think
Re: Armoured spearman upgrades
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 5:41 pm
by Squirrel5555
More of a pavise spearmen attempt
Re: Armoured spearman upgrades
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 7:12 pm
by Squirrel5555
Simpler is better
Re: Armoured spearman upgrades
Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2021 1:07 pm
by Squirrel5555
Ok I'm sorry, final concept
I hate the others I posted
Re: Armoured spearman upgrades
Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2021 1:54 pm
by Hyuhjhih
I liked
than
Squirrel5555 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 27, 2021 1:07 pm
Ok I'm sorry, final concept
I hate the others I posted
.
Looks much like an "Armoured Spearman "
Re: Armoured spearman upgrades
Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2021 2:00 pm
by Squirrel5555
Well I didn't like the head, too big
Re: Armoured spearman upgrades
Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:33 pm
by Shark guy 35
The shield looks a little plain, I would add something in each of the four sides.
