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Ent demolishers can carry ent demolishers - Implemented

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:12 pm
by Savra
I was apparently able to carry another ent demolisher within my ent demolished,
This was with current version, I did this by simply getting the parapet expansion techs and getting 2 ent demolishers and having one carry the other.

Re: Ent demolishers can carry ent demolishers

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:39 pm
by Alexander82
Ent demolishers shouldn't have a carry capacity in the first place. I will fix it in next version.

Re: Ent demolishers can carry ent demolishers

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:46 pm
by Savra
I thought ent demolishers and ent warriors were supposed to be affected by the parapet upgrades? The ent warriors can carry units too however it is very limited.

Re: Ent demolishers can carry ent demolishers

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:06 am
by Anchar
As far as I know, the Ents who throw stones can carry other similar Ents, thanks to which you can load Ents into each other to make a kind of matryoshka from Ents, if you get confused, it turns out that when you kill one Ents, another will be in its place when you kill 2, in its place there will be 3 and etc.

Re: Ent demolishers can carry ent demolishers

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 4:57 am
by makazuwr32
Savra wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:46 pm I thought ent demolishers and ent warriors were supposed to be affected by the parapet upgrades? The ent warriors can carry units too however it is very limited.
No only ent warrior should have that.
Also alex please check armored woodshaper. This one also should not have carry cap.

Re: Ent demolishers can carry ent demolishers

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 2:47 pm
by Huttensohn
It's even weirder now. I can send you Screenshots via email.

I played two islands skirmish against ai, my units can enter ent warrior.

then I played tight spot, they can enter ent demolisher, but not ent warrior. I even started a new skirmish (first one was older) and had the same bug. how can that be?

Re: Ent demolishers can carry ent demolishers

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:38 pm
by Midonik
Ehh... I sometimes feel like this games are actually depended on magic and not code.


It's definitely not based on map. There must be some other condition that was different. Maybe techs you had researched?

Re: Ent demolishers can carry ent demolishers

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:55 pm
by makazuwr32
Huttensohn wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 2:47 pm It's even weirder now. I can send you Screenshots via email.

I played two islands skirmish against ai, my units can enter ent warrior.

then I played tight spot, they can enter ent demolisher, but not ent warrior. I even started a new skirmish (first one was older) and had the same bug. how can that be?
Demolishers in dev version are fixed. Now we need to check a bit later ents specifically.

Re: Ent demolishers can carry ent demolishers

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 5:01 pm
by Huttensohn
I will test it. but tbh, I had treetop archery 1 researched on both. does ent toughness change anything?

I have the same notion :-)

Re: Ent demolishers can carry ent demolishers

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 6:20 pm
by makazuwr32
Ent toughness increases health by +5% (for now, later will be changed to fixed value) and melee armor by +2 for ent demolisher and ent warrior.

Re: Ent demolishers can carry ent demolishers

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 6:22 pm
by Huttensohn
I mean if it changes anything in regard of carry. Thank you.

Re: Ent demolishers can carry ent demolishers

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 6:24 pm
by Huttensohn
In the two islands game where warriors can carry, I have researched the following :

Ambidextria
Elven Bowcraft
Elders
Dodge arrows
Elven Bowcraft
Dodge melee
Treetop archery lv1
Thunder Storm
Elf Arcane Range 1
Precision shot 1
Lembas
Elven Weaponsmithing
Elven Bowcraft
Rock Throwing
Elf Arcane Range 2
Treetop archery lv2
Improved dodge melee
Writing

Re: Ent demolishers can carry ent demolishers

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 6:26 pm
by Huttensohn
in the game where only demolishers can carry, I have

Elders
Ambidextria
Treetop archery lv1
Writing
Treetop archery lv2
Wisp Summoning Training

Re: Ent demolishers can carry ent demolishers

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:35 pm
by Huttensohn
Update, now ent warriors and ent demolishers can carry troops.
ent demolisher can carry warrior, but not vice versa.

it is the same game were it was demolishers carrying only at first

Re: Ent demolishers can carry ent demolishers

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 5:49 pm
by makazuwr32
Ent demolishers are no longer affected in dev version from treetop archery techs thus this is fixed for newly trained ents when version will be released.

Re: Ent demolishers can carry ent demolishers

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 5:54 pm
by Huttensohn
Okay great. I hope that it will work for newly trained ent warriors, after the update. Thank you!

Re: Ent demolishers can carry ent demolishers

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 6:20 am
by Huttensohn
Now it again doesn't work in a game where it used to work and doesn't work in a multiplayer game. A pity.

Re: Ent demolishers can carry ent demolishers

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 6:36 pm
by Huttensohn
it's getting weirder and weirder. my ent warrior can carry a elf warrior (spearman) but not a wizard. isn't that weird?

Re: Ent demolishers can carry ent demolishers

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:40 pm
by makazuwr32
For now elf wizard is not in list of carriable units by ent warrior thus it is not a bug but later she will be carriable.

anyway topic is set as implemented.