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Varangian guard
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:26 pm
by Morningwarrior
Vanrangian guard are elite troops,body guards of emperor,composed by mens of scandinavia and anglo saxons.
Hp:28
Atk:14
Def:4/2
Act:1
Spd:3
Hp bônus:1.5
Cost:7
Rng:1
Sight:5
Aoe:1
Heavy foot melee,anti light infantry anti medium infantry anti siege machine
Bonus
+75% vs light and medium foot melee
+100% vs structures
+15% vs heavy foot melee
+125% vs fortifield buildings
+280% vs mega buildings
Re: Varangian guard
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:02 pm
by Badnorth
Already Ingame..
Re: Varangian guard
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:59 pm
by Endru1241
Well, to be truthful in game is only a generic version of unemployed varangian unit.
Those proposed are specific hellenic elite unit - equipped by and loyal to emperor of Byzantium.
Re: Varangian guard
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:06 pm
by Badnorth
OH, then that is good news.
I want this unit in-game!
Re: Varangian guard
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:28 am
by Morningwarrior
QuadrupoleStrat wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:06 pm
OH, then that is good news.
I want this unit in-game!
You are so bipolar.
Re: Varangian guard
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:29 am
by Morningwarrior
Anyway that my ideia for that unit,anythings to change about him?
Re: Varangian guard
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:33 am
by Hyuhjhih
Hp 》 35
Att 》15
Armour 》 0/2
Heavy 》medium
Either aoe 1 or heal bonus 1.0 would do good.
Re: Varangian guard
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:58 am
by Morningwarrior
Hyuhjhih wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:33 am
Hp 》 35
Att 》15
Armour 》 0/2
Heavy 》medium
Either aoe 1 or heal bonus 1.0 would do good.
Varangian guard is mensioned the elite of bizantine empire,despite that 15 damage and an interesting proposal.
Re: Varangian guard
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:10 am
by Hyuhjhih
Well heavy means not large health pool but a heavy armour. 0/2 is pretty low and att 15 is well woth bonus against light foot. So elite could be medium armoured.
Re: Varangian guard
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:38 am
by Badnorth
Hyuhjhih wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:10 am
Well heavy means not large health pool but a heavy armour. 0/2 is pretty low and att 15 is well woth bonus against light foot. So elite could be medium armoured.
Yes, Heavy foot melee means heavily armoured. It can be medium foot melee.
Re: Varangian guard
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:08 pm
by Endru1241
Real armor is represented by both hp pool and armors. In game armor is just stable non-removable reduction of damage. In game armor sometimes represent e.g. great agility in melee or against projectiles, great block or parry ability.
That's why under specific conditions light infantry can have higher armor stat than e.g. medium. In game hp represents overall residence of a unit on battlefield.
Re: Varangian guard
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:38 pm
by Badnorth
How will the stats be then? Another version of Housecarl? Or a tanky spearman?
My proposition:
Varangian Guard
Produced in: Castles, Nordic hall.
Cost: 6
Hp: 27
Att: 9
Spd: 3
Armor: 4/4
Sight: 4
Heal bonus: 2.0
Mental resistance: 100%
50% Melee foot
50% Archers
120% Mounted
160% Heavy cavalry slow
220% Medium cavalry, Chariot
240% Heavy cavalry
490% Elephants
Categories:
Heavy foot melee, Pole-arm wielder, Anti-Mounted, Shield bearer, Nordic.
Affected by blacksmith upgrades.
Image in mind:
Standard Varangian with improved armor, a spear and kite shield.
Re: Varangian guard
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:54 pm
by Morningwarrior
QuadrupoleStrat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:38 pm
How will the stats be then? Another version of Housecarl? Or a tanky spearman?
My proposition:
Varangian Guard
Produced in: Castles, Nordic hall.
Cost: 6
Hp: 27
Att: 9
Spd: 3
Armor: 4/4
Sight: 4
Heal bonus: 2.0
Mental resistance: 100%
50% Melee foot
50% Archers
120% Mounted
160% Heavy cavalry slow
220% Medium cavalry, Chariot
240% Heavy cavalry
490% Elephants
Categories:
Heavy foot melee, Pole-arm wielder, Anti-Mounted, Shield bearer, Nordic.
Affected by blacksmith upgrades.
Image in mind:
Standard Varangian with improved armor, a spear and kite shield.
Is good stats but,varangian guard dont be use a polearm,he uses a large axe,similar to galowglass,he have great bonus dmg for this he cost 7 inside 6
Re: Varangian guard
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 4:29 am
by Badnorth
Large axe? I thought a spear would be also good.
Swords should also be an option.
I don't like him having Aoe damage. Maybe single target but a lot of attack?
Re: Varangian guard
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 4:32 am
by Hyuhjhih
Hyuhjhih wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:33 am
Either aoe 1 or heal bonus 1.0 would do good.
Re: Varangian guard
Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:53 am
by Morningwarrior
QuadrupoleStrat wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 4:29 am
Large axe? I thought a spear would be also good.
Swords should also be an option.
I don't like him having Aoe damage. Maybe single target but a lot of attack?
that's the point, not the damage, much better to do regular damage to a bunch of units, plus it comes with an excellent bonus
Re: Varangian guard
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2021 6:02 am
by Shark guy 35
Anyone else interested in adding this in?
Re: Varangian guard
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:12 am
by Squirrel5555
Well, the current image of the varangian mercenary looks like a depiction of a byzantine varangian. If someone could find a significantly different image to base this version on, I could try, but I couldn't find a unique image myself.
Re: Varangian guard
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:19 pm
by Morningwarrior
Great,but somethimg is wrong about him.
Re: Varangian guard
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:21 pm
by Morningwarrior
Well i such rebalanced he stats
H-26
Atk-15
Armor:3/1
Re: Varangian guard
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 5:14 am
by Badnorth
Squirrel5555 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:12 am
Well, the current image of the varangian mercenary looks like a depiction of a byzantine varangian. If someone could find a significantly different image to base this version on, I could try, but I couldn't find a unique image myself.
If this is still needed here:
Just change a detail like the axe or something.